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New Oticon Agil

2010-02-22 23:06:00 in Digital Hearing Aids by  HolmesHunter
I am at introduce trialing the Phonak Smart, and the Oticon Epoq xw. At

this point I am inclining towords the Epoq.

My inquiry is should I hold off on a ultimate conclusion till the Oticon Agil is

discharged, or run with the Epoq xw?

I am 75, resigned, yet extremely dynamic. My listening ability is critical to me, and

I will burn through cash on the off chance that it helps, however would prefer not to burn through cash

unnecessarily (would rather burn through $6000 on a pleasant excursion). The Epoq have made a difference

me to hear superior to my 2 year old Resounds that I by and by have.

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zippy I'm going to look at the ReSound(s) without the "streamer", as my Oticon Epoc's are fine, however the Streamer is terrible. In a peaceful auto, my Samsung PDA is "worthy", as indicated by those on the flip side, yet the RF yield of the Streamer (or the affectability of the guides) is poor. Here and there simply turning my head looses one channel of music or voice. The up/down affirmation tones are at full volume, extremely irritating. There's no Mute catch, so TV plugs really hurt. One of the offering components of this framework was the capacity for my better half & I to sit in front of the TV together. This is unrealistic, as my audi has set the differential to the maximum, and at the volume I set my TV to, she needs to holler (simply like some time recently). For me to hear her, my level would blow me out of the seat.

I've worn guides for a long time, from Maico and Belltone to Telex and ReSound. The Epoc item appears as if it was not composed by individuals with hearing misfortune.

ElNHP Originally Posted by hamjor

Sorry to learn, ElNHP, you heard ideal on the Agils' cost. Incredible, I know, for helps with a future of around five to ten years that can eat batteries like jam beans , however they are very great. Check whether he supposes they're a major change over what he's had. The Agils will have a different eatery mode that may require some tweaking alterations yet can deal with an uproarious situation superior to anything many guides. On the off chance that he loves the Agils however cash's tight, after he's attempted the Agils for half a month, make a request to demo something all the more sensibly estimated that may likewise address his issues, and afterward check whether he supposes the Agils are justified regardless of the additional cash. He might possibly.

On the off chance that Bluetooth is critical to him- - it can enable him to hear the TV and the telephone by remotely channeling the sound straightforwardly into his ear, so in case you're staring at the TV together, at that point you can tune in to the TV at typical volume and he hears it in his ear louder than he generally would- - the Agils do stream, however they do it with a cumbersome gushing gadget he wears around his neck and a slight postponement in sound that a few people don't care for. Another model of helps that range in cost from $4000 to $6000 contingent upon the model that additionally do Bluetooth yet without the massive streamer or as much deferral in sound are GN ReSound Alera 61s a.k.a. the Alera 5, Alera 7, or Alera 9, with the Alera 5 being the one near $4000 including Bluetooth transmitting extras. They may be justified regardless of a strive for examination.

A debt of gratitude is in order for data hamjor. Ear molds were taken and he has appt one month from now to lift them up and attempt them. Expectation they function admirably, even tho they are $2000 more costly than we expected, we will be cheerful on the off chance that they are in the same class as communicated on this gathering.

BTW I am techno tested, is there any way I can be told of reactions? I am having issue discovering this.

ABB The Oticon Agil demonstrate just turned out this past spring. It has a speedier processor, from what I comprehend, which implies it responds to and changes with sound significantly faster. I don't know what the distinction is between the Agil and the Agil ace unless it needs to do with the level of hearing misfortune - Agil Pro being all the more capable. The specialists on here ought to have the capacity to clear up that and also alternate contrasts. I can represent myself - they are like someone flipped a switch to what I had beforehand experienced. Not immaculate (and, obviously, nothing ever will be), yet the nearest I've been in quite a while.

TRACEY JOHNSTON Originally Posted by ABB

Hello Tracey, here is my survey of the Agil from when I got them a while back. http://www.hearingaidforums.com/show...?t=6402&page=2

Despite everything I adore them!

much obliged for all that.great data -

I have been getting lost finding my way on this discussion!

I do ask why such a variety of individuals all go for oticon agil Pro.

Perhaps warranted.I ask why my sound did not propose//?(why oticon agil and not oticon agil pro).Thou she had not fitted anybody yet with agil go yet.

(perhaps cost?//as additional 800 dols each guide in addition to gst at her facility./from what she composed).

In any case, I would pay if was greatly improved for me as i have gone a lot of this previous year going with messed/flawed listening devices and what a bother it made thus much trouble to speak with people.Life turned out to be substantially more difficult than it ought to have been.anyway-better circumstances now eh. Great hearing is so exceptionally importany and music i cherish I might want to appreciate increasingly and hear more adjust.

ABB Originally Posted by TRACEY JOHNSTON

thinking about whether you attempted the oticon agil?

On the off chance that so kindly do tell me how it went?

much obliged

Hello Tracey, here is my survey of the Agil from when I got them a while back. http://www.hearingaidforums.com/show...?t=6402&page=2

Despite everything I adore them!

xbulder [QUOTE=glucas;38029]

Initially Posted by xbulder

Sorry - just observed their spec for ITCs. They don't have a power adaptation.

they do now! Agil itc conceals to 90 dbhl

TRACEY JOHNSTON Originally Posted by ABB

My audiologist talked with her Oticon rep early today who said the Agil would be accessible in the US March 12.

thinking about whether you attempted the oticon agil?

On the off chance that so kindly do tell me how it went?

much obliged

hamjor Sorry to state, ElNHP, you heard appropriate on the Agils' cost. Unbelievable, I know, for helps with a future of around five to ten years that can eat batteries like jam beans , yet they are very great. Check whether he supposes they're a major change over what he's had. The Agils will have a different eatery mode that may require some tweaking alterations yet can deal with a boisterous domain superior to anything many guides. On the off chance that he enjoys the Agils however cash's tight, after he's attempted the Agils for half a month, make a request to demo something all the more sensibly estimated that may likewise address his issues, and afterward check whether he supposes the Agils are justified regardless of the additional cash. He could conceivably.

On the off chance that Bluetooth is critical to him- - it can enable him to hear the TV and the telephone by remotely channeling the sound straightforwardly into his ear, so in case you're sitting in front of the TV together, at that point you can tune in to the TV at ordinary volume and he hears it in his ear louder than he generally would- - the Agils do stream, however they do it with a cumbersome spilling gadget he wears around his neck and a slight postponement in sound that a few people don't care for. Another model of helps that range in cost from $4000 to $6000 contingent upon the model that additionally do Bluetooth however without the massive streamer or as much postponement in sound are GN ReSound Alera 61s a.k.a. the Alera 5, Alera 7, or Alera 9, with the Alera 5 being the one near $4000 including Bluetooth transmitting adornments. They may be justified regardless of a strive for examination.

ElNHP I have been perusing this gathering on the grounds that my significant other's audiologist will have him test the agil. I am confounded by the a wide range of value cites posted and furthermore say of streamers and wax watches. We were cited a cost of over $6000 yet will have a 30 day free trial. He has worn HA's for a long time and we trust that these will be a change over his present 5 yr old Phonax. He is searching for development in hearing in eateries and other comparative spots with alot of foundation clamor. I am feeling that the cost cited is too high yet have been setting off to this audiologist for a long time. Any guidance?

glucas [QUOTE=xbulder;38027]

Initially Posted by glucas

Anyone got specialized specs for the Agil. Do they do an ITC control ?[/Q

they do have a CIC control that spreads 90dbhl - I dont Oticon is being practical.

Sorry - just observed their spec for ITCs. They don't have a power variant.

xbulder [QUOTE=glucas;38025]Anybody got specialized specs for the Agil. Do they do an ITC control ?[/Q

they do have a CIC control that spreads 90dbhl - I dont Oticon is being reasonable.

glucas Anybody got specialized specs for the Agil. Do they do an ITC control ?

yesimdeaf Originally Posted by only1miller

Thought I'd ring in as another Agil proprietor.

I'm originating from an old match of 6yr old beat down Siemens CICs so the distinction was dumbfounding! I have a 2-week catch up with my audiologist today so I'll rapidly shot a few upsides and downsides and follow-up later.

Aces

stunning lucidity - i have binaural light to direct misfortune centered in the discourse groups and these little folks truly make discussion clear.

foundation clamor - i was in an eatery with my better half for around a hour prior to I understood that we were speaking serenely and I didn't have to take them out (as I frequently did the Siemens). This inspired me.

control - they appear to be such a great amount of louder than the Siemens ever were despite the fact that both were precisely acclimated to my listening ability misfortune (Siemens were computerized too, but a more seasoned innovation. CONS

fit - despite the fact that I was copiously certain with the audiologist that vanity was surely my most loved sin, the HAs that arrived were extensively bigger than the Siemens CICs that I had earlier (I have the Agil CICs). Tragically, they are likewise substantially more detectable. The more articulated area may likewise be meddling with my capacity to chat on my Blackberry and certain different telephones - I think the mic gets excessively close or something. Telephones were never an issue with the Siemens.

Top of the line clamor - these things REALLY get the top of the line. I've never been so headed to frenzy by the sound of papers being rearranged, collapsed, and so forth as I have with these. Crimped wrappers additionally have all the earmarks of being absurdly uproarious.

Criticism and reverberation - certain tones make these things go insane - regardless of how far away the source. Microwave broiler keypads, bagpipes on TV, player reinforcement unit alerts, and so forth. Anything in the high tone end causes a course of bizarre input and modification from the HAs. Obviously this might be because of the tuning of my specific set. Alright, that is a first take. Once more, I understand that fit and tuning assume a major part in the HA encounter so please take this as one man's subjective feeling.

Here's to you!

+1 when I initially got the Agil

An entire month later with legitimate alterations the splendor and criticism are not any more an issue, despite the fact that the Agil accentuates the high frequencies. Around a hour back my Audi brought the 8k down from a "15" to "13" on the product and it had a constructive outcome, with no genuine misfortune in my capacity to hear the highs.

I'm truly vain, as well, however before long with the BTE I couldn't mind less what it would seem that as long as it functions admirably.

only1miller Thought I'd toll in as another Agil proprietor.

I'm originating from an old combine of 6yr old beat down Siemens CICs so the distinction was surprising! I have a 2-week catch up with my audiologist today so I'll rapidly shot a few upsides and downsides and follow-up later.

Aces

stunning clearness - i have binaural light to direct misfortune centered in the discourse groups and these little folks truly make discussion clear.

foundation clamor - i was in an eatery with my significant other for around a hour prior to I understood that we were bantering easily and I didn't have to take them out (as I regularly did the Siemens). This inspired me.

control - they appear to be such a great amount of louder than the Siemens ever were despite the fact that both were precisely acclimated to my listening ability misfortune (Siemens were computerized too, though a more seasoned innovation. CONS

fit - despite the fact that I was copiously evident with the audiologist that vanity was in fact my most loved sin, the HAs that arrived were extensively bigger than the Siemens CICs that I had earlier (I have the Agil CICs). Shockingly, they are likewise substantially more recognizable. The more articulated area may likewise be meddling with my capacity to chat on my Blackberry and certain different telephones - I think the mic gets excessively close or something. Telephones were never an issue with the Siemens.

Top of the line clamor - these things REALLY get the top of the line. I've never been so headed to frenzy by the sound of papers being rearranged, collapsed, and so on as I have with these. Creased wrappers likewise give off an impression of being incredibly boisterous.

Criticism and reverberation - certain tones make these things go insane - regardless of how far away the source. Microwave broiler keypads, bagpipes on TV, player reinforcement unit alerts, and so on. Anything in the high tone end causes a course of peculiar criticism and change from the HAs. Obviously this might be because of the tuning of my specific set. Alright, that is a first take. Once more, I understand that fit and tuning assume a major part in the HA encounter so please take this as one man's subjective sentiment.

Salud!

xbulder Originally Posted by mrparkerpawn

I have quite recently acquired a couple ($5800 +) with all the do-fathers and will get it Thursday (04-08-2010). Will attempt and get back with my input when I can.

My present portable amplifiers are around 7 years of age, so I trust I am excited with this refresh in gear.

you will be cheerful

mrparkerpawn I have quite recently bought a couple ($5800 +) with all the do-fathers and will get it Thursday (04-08-2010). Will attempt and get back with my criticism when I can.

My present portable hearing assistants are around 7 years of age, so I trust I am excited with this refresh in gear.

NorthViking Here is the frame factor:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzC8O-zJOa8

Murphy5111 Originally Posted by alpine1

3200.00 for each guide was a guestiamtion from my audiologist in view of her cost in addition to markup.

I just got a cost on an Oticon Dual XW at $3200. Makes me think this will be considerably more.

alpine1 Originally Posted by ABB

I'm speculating slightest an exorbitant price

3200.00 for each guide was a guestiamtion from my audiologist in view of her cost in addition to markup.

Murphy5111 Originally Posted by ABB

Be that as it may, why might they not show it on their landing page as a present item... that just appears to be odd.

The Epoq is currently recorded as a "develop" item alongside the Tego, Go, Vigo, and Delta

ABB But why might they not show it on their landing page as a present item... that just appears to be odd.

xbulder Originally Posted by ABB

I was somewhat asking why the Epoq isn't recorded under items on the Oticon landing page. It is safe to say that they are not making it any longer?

epoq will be present for a long time. There are many spots where importation of restorative items (enlistment) takes months even up to a year. So Epoq will be beat

items in numerous many spots.

It is as yet posible to put orders for Adapto for instance, a top en item in 2003

ABB I was somewhat asking why the Epoq isn't recorded under items on the Oticon landing page. It is safe to say that they are not making it any longer?

gkumar I too am keen on the shape components and the amount of a change Agil has over Epoq. Will the change be substantially more sensational than Epoq over the Digifocus?

aero777 Thanks. Any word on the shape figure?

xbulder Originally Posted by Um bongo

Without knowing your individual needs it's difficult to state, yet it's not generally best to be at the (b)leading edge when stuff turns out: as most Syncro clients will let you know. There's bunches of strong dependable item out there that individuals definitely know how to fit, however we're altogether disposed to pursue the unthinkable innovation genie, just to discover its not given us significantly more than we have as of now.

You sort of know when an item is hitting development in its advancement cycle when maker claims are getting practical - even on the Epoq dispatch, Oticon were just asserting it gave 0.1 dB change in SNR (Speech/Noise Ratio) when contrasted and past item/the best of the rest. Take a gander at these cases for the Agile and check whether you believe there's sufficient distinction to warrant your money.

From a Dispensing perspective, it's extremely hard to legitimize one of these items over something like a Vigo Pro, unless the wearer has demanding prerequisites and a readiness to (over-)contribute.

I never like the sincro, it was an awfull instrument. Epoq was impressive better,

the bar is a considerable measure higher so we will know in time if agil is for sure better.

xbulder Originally Posted by aero777

Has Genie 2010.1 been discharged yet?

it will be out tomorrow, i get it will be indistinguishable to the 2009

alpine1 Originally Posted by Um bongo

From a Dispensing perspective, it's extremely hard to legitimize one of these items over something like a Vigo Pro, unless the wearer has demanding necessities and an eagerness to (over-)contribute.

A debt of gratitude is in order for an awesome reaction.

Um bongo Originally Posted by alpine1

Any thought what they may retail for?

Initially Posted by ABB

I'm speculating minimum an excessively high price

Without knowing your individual needs it's difficult to state, however it's not generally best to be at the (b)leading edge when stuff turns out: as most Syncro clients will let you know. There's heaps of strong dependable item out there that individuals definitely know how to fit, however we're altogether disposed to pursue the unthinkable innovation genie, just to discover its not given us significantly more than we have as of now.

You sort of know when an item is hitting development in its advancement cycle when producer claims are getting practical - even on the Epoq dispatch, Oticon were just guaranteeing it gave 0.1 dB change in SNR (Speech/Noise Ratio) when contrasted and past item/the best of the rest. Take a gander at these cases for the Agile and check whether you believe there's sufficient distinction to warrant your money.

From a Dispensing perspective, it's extremely hard to legitimize one of these items over something like a Vigo Pro, unless the wearer has demanding prerequisites and an eagerness to (over-)contribute.

aero777 Has Genie 2010.1 been discharged yet?

xbulder Originally Posted by HolmesHunter

I am at show trialing the Phonak Smart, and the Oticon Epoq xw. At

this point I am inclining towords the Epoq.

My inquiry is should I hold off on an official choice till the Oticon Agil is

discharged, or run with the Epoq xw?

I am 75, resigned, however extremely dynamic. My listening ability is critical to me, and

I will burn through cash on the off chance that it helps, yet would prefer not to burn through cash

unnecessarily (would rather burn through $6000 on a decent trek). The Epoq have made a difference

me to hear superior to my 2 year old Resounds that I directly have.

i will hold up 1 week time, get the agil in the event that you have a dynamic life you may truly like the agil

RMinNJ Yes, in the market for new guides I figured the new Agile would be valued well out of my range, so holding out didn't appear to be legitimate.

Additionally, I'd rather get a guide they have been customizing for quite a while as opposed to one they just got

in yesterday and might be one of the first to be fitted.

ABB I'm speculating slightest far too much

alpine1 Any thought what they may retail for?

ABB My audiologist talked with her Oticon rep toward the beginning of today who said the Agil would be accessible in the US March 12.

aero777 I would state sit tight for the more current Agil. The EPOQ has an incredible notoriety, however it was discharged three years prior and is expected for a refresh. Hello, praise to you for doing some exploration and finding the arrival of the more up to date item. I would be astonished if your container educated you regarding it, however I could not be right. On the off chance that you go to the Oticon site there’s not a word said about the new Agil, Because of this, and the reality your statistic is by and large not as web clever as you, the EPOQ will kept on being sold at the maximum for quite a long time to come.

pvc Originally Posted by ABB

So soon, xbulder? Will they begin shipping them out to audiologists at that point?

An option is to remain one era back and purchase an utilized match of Oticon Epoq XWs for roughly $2000. At that point you could bear to pay for somebody to program these for you, or you could purchase the hardware (USB Hi-Pro, programming shoes, Oticon programming links #3) to program them yourself.

This may not be the approach for you. It's only an option some might need to consider.

ABB So soon, xbulder? Will they begin shipping them out to audiologists at that point?

xbulder Originally Posted by hearnow

I would state hold tight for the Agil as it is not far away and there is definately a generational change to be had.

they will be out one week from now

hearnow I would state hold tight for the Agil as it is not far away and there is definately a generational change to be had.

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