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Experiences With Phonak Audeo - YES HA's?

2009-01-31 09:54:00 in Digital Hearing Aids by  Neilk
Someone said getting the just discharged Phonak Audeo - YES IX's on this board. I had my audi arrange a couple for me to trial close by my Siemens Pure 500's. They will ideally be in after about seven days, and she will give personal time to trial both before settling on a choice on which to keep. So it is Siemens Pure 500's with Tek verses Phonak Audeo - YES IX with iCom and iPilot. Obviously, the quick preferred standpoint of the Tek is that it is one piece that does it all. The iCom however seems, by all accounts, to be littler to wear around the neck, not as prominent. Additionally, the iCom has a solitary catch as you have to convey the different iPilot remote around to control and to see the status readouts on the guides. With regards to noting a wireless call hands free while driving ... doubtlessly the iCom would have the positive preferred standpoint as you don't need to take a gander at it to hit the right catch to switch over.

The iCom likewise bolsters FM, which I am not comfortable with, and don't expect utilizing, but rather it is an accessible choice.

Presently, these YES IX are somewhat rare as they have quite recently been discharged in the previous week or two from what I get it. What's more, I know it's truly pushing it wanting to discover individuals who make them post on this board. In any case, I figured I'd give it a go ... anybody out there with these??? On the off chance that so ... what are your musings on them so far ... cherish them, loathe them, similar to this don't care for that???? When I get them into trial, obviously I'll include my own particular remarks here too.

There are 3 models of Audeo - YES, the III, V, and IX. The IX are the highest point of the line ones with 20 channels of noiseblock handling and 33 channels of directionality, and the premium soundflow, and two or three different additional items.

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Neilk Originally Posted by jlingo

Hello there, have you attempted to utilize the iCom open air with cell phone? Individuals grumbled the clamor was terrible for them when I utilize the iCom open air or at the eatery. The mood clamor appears to meddle with the discussion.

I've utilized it outside and also at work with individuals talking over the speakerphones on my right side and behind me. I have had individuals gripe about hearing those on the speakerphone ... in any case, at that point I am continually hollering at them over their high volume to turn them down some ... so that is nothing surprising. On the off chance that I utilize my own telephone on speakerphone, they hear the encompassing clamor too. Outside has not been an issue for me or those on the flip side, or nobody has grumbled in any event.

jlingo Originally Posted by Neilk

Individuals reveal to me I'm splendidly certain, and I can hear then as clear as anyone might imagine. It is all around much superior to the Tek in feel and execution.

Howdy, have you attempted to utilize the iCom open air with cell phone? Individuals whined the clamor was deplorable for them when I utilize the iCom outside or at the eatery. The feeling clamor appears to meddle with the discussion.

Dunk Originally Posted by LisaW

Hello there

Sorry in the event that i've missed it yet i can't perceive any remarks on battery life. I have the Audeo Yes IX and with negligible utilization of the icom i get 5 days of battery life. In the event that I increment the icom use only a little sum this drops to 4 days. Is this simliar to what every other person is encountering?

Much appreciated

I've quite recently had my Audeo Yes Fives for twelve days now so have exceptionally restricted involvement.

One required a battery change about twelve of the eighth day and the other about a similar time on the ninth day.

I got one on the My Pilot chart appearing about done and a few minutes after the fact the tone entered the HI indictating low battery, at that point it was dead inside 5 minutes.

My mom's Starkey 1200 Destiny set does likewise. The battery goes dead around 5 minutes after the low battery tone sounds.

She utilizes hers around 11-12 hours per day and the batteries most recent 5 days.

I utilized the My Pilot a ton amid this time for testing and additionally utilizing the ICOM both in bluetooth and a little in sound. My utilization has arrived at the midpoint of around 10 - 11 hours for each day. I don't have the power beneficiaries to the extent I know.

I'm utilizing the Ray O Vac Extra batteries that have one of the shorter existences of the ones tried by a man in the battery gathering at, http://www.hearingaidforums.com/showthread.php?t=2924

I would surely concur with Neilk that the batteries last at high power and give out in almost no time.

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Icanhearnow Have them increment the "whistleblock" in that portable amplifier. I had a considerable measure of criticism in one of mine and when she expanded the "whistleblock" from medium to full the input left.

Icanhearnow Yes, I was informed that in the event that you utilize the mypilot a considerable measure it gobbles up more battery life.

Neilk Originally Posted by galan

LisaW,

I am 2 weeks into a trial of Audeo Yes V (standard RIC) and have needed to supplant the batteries only once on the begin of the eighth day. I anticipate that I will have will supplant again tomorrow or following day. I wear the HAs around 16 hours every day and keeping in mind that at work I utilize the iCom (spilling sound, not Bluetooth) around 2-3 hours per day at work. At present utilizing PowerOne, P312 batteries.

BTW - I additionally have the myPilot, however the HA battery status screen is for all intents and purposes futile since it demonstrates full batteries straight up to the time the batteries in both HAs bite the dust!

Remember that that is a property of the batteries. This sort of battery is intended to keep up full quality until the point when it actually kicks the bucket. So yes, the screen might be futile, however not by outline of the screen, but rather of the batteries.

I would likewise presume that the batteries would normally last somewhat longer with the standard recipient, and tend to utilize more power with the power collector shortening their life fairly when the power RIC is utilized.

galan LisaW,

I am 2 weeks into a trial of Audeo Yes V (standard RIC) and have needed to supplant the batteries only once on the begin of the eighth day. I anticipate that I will have will supplant again tomorrow or following day. I wear the HAs around 16 hours per day and keeping in mind that at work I utilize the iCom (spilling sound, not Bluetooth) around 2-3 hours per day at work. Right now utilizing PowerOne, P312 batteries.

BTW - I additionally have the myPilot, however the HA battery status screen is for all intents and purposes pointless since it demonstrates full batteries up to the time the batteries in both HAs bite the dust!

EnglishDispenser Originally Posted by CryMeARiver

I am wearing a demo combine of the Yes' IX and truly like the vibe and sound. I am experiencing difficulty however with practically constant criticism on the left side which deteriorates with my glasses on. Is this something that can be settled? I am fitted with the open arches so does this mean I will require an alternate tip for the left ear. I believe I'm sold if the input can be settled.

I have fitted a great deal of YESes.

I would now be able to tell if the Phonak iPFG proposal for an open tip is foolishness.

Here and there I check the charts and after that I go straight to a tulip vault as I KNOW that the suggested open arch will screech - or should be keep running at a lower than target pick up.

chuan ok at last i got the opportunity to see my audi with respect to the irregular power loss of my Phonak Vs. I have returned them and fortunate for me the maker has supplanted them with the redesigned IXs at no extra cost to me. I should state Phonak's reaction (with my audi's assistance obviously) to my concern has been outstanding. the old units are being analyzed to discover what's the issue with them. i trust a few of us has encountered this power misfortune.

The IX's are okay. i am simply getting used to them from this first day fitting. will report as i go on

Neilk Originally Posted by CryMeARiver

I am wearing a demo combine of the Yes' IX and truly like the vibe and sound. I am experiencing difficulty however with practically constant input on the left side which deteriorates with my glasses on. Is this something that can be settled? I am fitted with the open vaults so does this mean I will require an alternate tip for the left ear. I believe I'm sold if the input can be settled.

I had steady input with the Siemens Pure's that I was trialing before I changed to the YES's, likewise on only one side, not the other. In the wake of attempting the greater part of the distinctive styles and sizes of arches in that ear, my audi requested custom molds and that settled the issue. When I went to the YES's, she quite recently requested the custom forms in advance without my notwithstanding attempting the open fit ones.

CryMeARiver I am wearing a demo combine of the Yes' IX and truly like the vibe and sound. I am experiencing difficulty however with nearly constant criticism on the left side which deteriorates with my glasses on. Is this something that can be settled? I am fitted with the open vaults so does this mean I will require an alternate tip for the left ear. I believe I'm sold if the criticism can be settled.

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

Like what I get, yes. I get 5 days on the battery. I do have the power collector, and have the iCom ON throughout the day. I utilize it throughout the day with the Jabra and my office telephone in my office, generally recharging the iCom at twelve. 5 days doesn't seem like much, however I am so content with the colossal execution of the YES IX's, that I'm not whining. My past Phonak Extra's and Siemens Music's gave me 6 to 7 days on a battery and off by a long shot to the aftereffects of the YES IX.

I'm encountering comparable outcomes under comparative conditions. My Audeo YES IXs with control beneficiary are enduring 5 to 5-1/2 days (16 hour days) with a few hours of iCom utilize every day.

My old Siemens CIC (estimate 10 batteries, overlook the model) kept going 6-7 days.

All things considered, I'm content with them.

Neilk Originally Posted by LisaW

Howdy

Sorry on the off chance that i've missed it however i can't perceive any remarks on battery life. I have the Audeo Yes IX and with insignificant utilization of the icom i get 5 days of battery life. In the event that I increment the icom utilization only a little sum this drops to 4 days. Is this simliar to what every other person is encountering?

Much appreciated

Like what I get, yes. I get 5 days on the battery. I do have the power recipient, and have the iCom ON throughout the day. I utilize it throughout the day with the Jabra and my office telephone in my office, for the most part recharging the iCom at twelve. 5 days doesn't seem like much, however I am so content with the considerable execution of the YES IX's, that I'm not grumbling. My past Phonak Extra's and Siemens Music's gave me 6 to 7 days on a battery and off by a long shot to the consequences of the YES IX.

LisaW Hi

Sorry on the off chance that i've missed it yet i can't perceive any remarks on battery life. I have the Audeo Yes IX and with negligible utilization of the icom i get 5 days of battery life. On the off chance that I increment the icom use only a little sum this drops to 4 days. Is this simliar to what every other person is encountering?

Much appreciated

galan Just had another fitting thus far no fortunes at disposing of the empty sound when outside or the murmur when in calm circumstances. Notwithstanding the additional beats I hear when tuning in to some telephone rings and so on, I now hear a rattling solid (similar to a resound) on the high recurrence components of discourse. Appears as though I am going in reverse. My audi took impressions from custom molds, so will try those out.

Here are my present settings:

...….Calm Situations……...Speech in Noise……Comfort in Noise

Mic Mode:…..…Real Ear Sound…..….Voice Zoom……..…..Real Ear Sound

NoiseBlock:…...Light…………...……..…Moderate………..…..St rong

WindBlock:…....Moderate…………..….Moderate………..…..Mod erate

Whistleblock:.…Moderate…………..….Moderate………..…..Mod erate

SoundRecover:..On……………….....……On…………….........……On

I additionally now have a manual Calm Situations program with SoundRecover killed, yet can not tell any distinction in any of the issues I am encountering.

Not having worn any gadget before now, I am starting to think about whether my desires are too high.

Dunk [QUOTE=galan]"After 8 days of wearing the Audeo Yes V and 2 fittings I am as yet having issues as was trusting that the individuals who have had positive encounters with the Audeo Yes could share their fit arrangements and settings?

In particular, I am thinking about whether anybody with an open vault has encountered any of these issues and what setting changes were made to enhance them."

Hi Galan,

I'm simply into the 6th day of attempting the Audeo Yes V's with open vaults however am not having any of those issues. This is my first time with portable hearing assistants.

I've had somewhat metallic sound in a couple of circumstances. My vaults are out of the case yet my audi took impressions and she is getting custom ones for me to attempt.

The main issues I'm having are with the Icom volumes.

I live 100 miles from my audi and sound focus so I won't be getting a moment fitting till two weeks have gone since the first fitting.

I took a stab at spilling sound from my PC the previous evening and it functions admirably however bluetooth sound from the PC is of low quality as of now (tunes and music).

My audi said yesterday that the self learning highlight for volume works in every one of the projects, programmed, discourse in commotion, telephone and so on yet doesn't change the volume much.

I'm excited at how well the Icom functions with my mobile phone (aside from uneven volume that she said she could settle effortlessly). My cell is a HTC S720 with Telus in Canada.

I consider how one would make out with the Phonak Ipeg program and Icube doing changes all alone. I'm to some degree considering doing that however will simply look through the program to begin with. I'd should have the capacity to spare my audi's settings to backpedal to. I don't know whether they would be transferable from her PC Ipeg program to mine with a memory stick. The time and separation to her site is what is making me consider this.

I see Phonak has instructional exercise downloads for figuring out how to utilize it.

I trust the issues you are having can be worked out and wish you good fortunes.

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Leia Galan, here are my musings about that:

1) It may be some modest measure of input, is it progressively in the event that you utilize a cap? In the event that you have the criticism stage inverter (WhistleBlock) set legitimately, you could attempt to include more commotion diminishment (NoiseBlock Processing). In any event with my Phonak Savia clamor lessening decreases additionally input, and really it may help regardless of the possibility that it's something else.

2) It sounds like it could be the input stage inverter (WhistleBlock) which is meddling melodic tones. Audeo Yes V appears to have music program choice just as a manual program, you could attempt to set that and test if it's better. With open arches it's in all likelihood best to keep the criticism stage inverter on.

3) May I ask is this a consistent murmur or an evolving murmur?

Kind respects,

Leia

Neilk Sorry, can't state I at any point encountered any of those. I have had custom molds since day 1 however as I began with the Siemens Pure 500's and required the custom molds to determine a criticism issue with them. When I changed to the YES IX's, my audi quite recently went straight off to the custom molds. Apologies, can't help on this.

galan After 8 days of wearing the Audeo Yes V and 2 fittings I am as yet having issues as was trusting that the individuals who have had positive encounters with the Audeo Yes could share their fit arrangements and settings?

In particular, I am thinking about whether anybody with an open vault has encountered any of these issues and what setting alterations were made to enhance them.

1) An empty sound within the sight of foundation clamor, particularly when outside. This initially was a metallic humming sound, however after the second fitting transformed into the empty sound (like holding a long empty tube up to your ears).

2) For high recurrence beeps and tones, I can distinguish an additional tone or beat recurrence. I am thinking this is the Sound Recover include (recurrence pressure) giving a moved recurrence and it is meddling with the common sound that gets through the open vault.

3) A murmur when in a peaceful circumstance - this can be decreased by cutting back the volume, yet not totaling disposed of.

I have another fitting planned, however thought I would perceive how others have settled these issues.

Much appreciated!

highcourt I welcome the give an account of the Phonak. I have never worn portable hearing assistants, yet most likely have required them for quite a while. After a hearing test, my audiologist has suggested Widex. Be that as it may, the Phonak agent has offered a free hearing test and a 30-day trial in the event that I wish to attempt a Phonak show. I am going Thursday and will have loads of inquiries concerning the YES. A debt of gratitude is in order for sharing your experience.

Neilk Originally Posted by audiosmalls

I can let you know the Audeo is an unrivaled item essentially by the innovation it has that no other amplifier has

I can back audiosmalls up by my involvement with them. I haven't heard this well nor saw such a great amount of discourse in years. My neighbor will vouch for that as I never again advise her to rehash herself 10 times each time she says something. My significant other is extremely content with them also, aside from now she's the person who says "Crank the volume up on the TV"

audiosmalls I can let you know the Audeo is a prevalent item basically by the innovation it has that no other amplifier has

Dunk When my audi requested my Yes fives she said the Phonaks were regularly on raincheck (I think she implied the new Yes line).

Mine came immediately with the My Pilot however without the Icom.

It was delay purchased yet came a couple of days after the fact.

MalibuFlyer I need to thank all who add to this Forum. I have taken in an incredible arrangement from understanding it. I have never had HAs yet have a couple of Yes IXs on arrange. My audi proposed the IXs since my lone defficiency is a huge loss of high frequencies. [I need to get a duplicate of my profile however don't at present have it]. He was shocked to discover that I am experiencing difficulty with discourse [at minimum as indicated by my better half of right around 40 years] since my listening ability in the discourse frequencies is well inside the typical range.

I am confident of the outcomes however have nothing to contrast it with. I comprehend that HAs change the sound quality from unassisted hearing. My audi has said he doesn't know that the bother of wearing HAs will legitimize the change however that it merits seeing.

I am somewhat disappointed since it now creates the impression that YES IXs are on raincheck. THe request was set a little more than seven days back however I checked today and have been told the Phonax would not transport them until May fourteenth. Has any other individual encounted a raincheck situtation?

Dunk Hello,

I'm new to this discussion however have been tailing it for about a month. It's an awesome place to get data for a newby like me.

I'm trialing a couple of Audeo Yes V helps. These are my first arrangement of helps yet I ought to of had some for various years. This is quite recently my fifth day with them however they are working extremely well. The My Pilot and Icom accompanied them. My audi simply did the underlying fitting so they will require balanced soon.

The Icom is working alright with my PDA utilizing bluetooth however the volumes require balanced. The mikes are turned up too high and the listening device volumes are way out of adjust (just in bluetooth mode).

She introduced the discourse in clamor, comfort in commotion, telephone, and in addition the programmed program.

Might someone be able to let me know whether every one of these projects are self learning or is it quite recently the programmed program?

Additionally I'm uncertain what the My Pilot (adaptation 2.4) store prog/volume and review settings do?

I've possessed the capacity to combine the Icom with my HP portable workstation Pavillion

dv7 Vista 64 bit, utilizing bluetooth yet am not ready to get any sound. The PC doesn't quick for a secret word or PIN number the way my mobile phone did.

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galan Well, I at last got fitted with my Audeo Yes V's (open fit arches), and with such exclusive requirements in the wake of perusing the encounters of individuals like Neilk, I am to a great degree frustrated. It has been under 24 hours, yet as a first time client I was expecting a wow calculate and was anticipating the rich full stable others have depicted. It has been not at all like that. Now and again I think about whether they are on by any stretch of the imagination, and I positively can't tell any distinctions when physically exchanging between programs (Speech in Noise, Comfort in Noise, Calm Situation, Music). Despite the fact that my listening ability misfortune is mostly high frequencies, I am getting next to no bass sounds unless I press the ear pieces more distant into the waterway and fitting the trench with my fingers (now that is quite recently not right). When driving, the radio (which is fine when I am halted or one side avenues) for all intents and purposes vanishes at road speeds. When strolling around outside in the open I can hear a steady buzz, similar to a swarm of metallic honey bees off out yonder. Once more, this buzz is not influenced by exchanging programs. Furthermore, the truly frustrating part is the way that the high recurrence tinnitus sounds in both ears has not been decreased - by any means! I know I was cautioned that HAs frequently don't help with tinnitus, yet I was planning to dispose of it while wearing these.

I am backpedaling to my audi in a day or somewhere in the vicinity, when she gets some unique ear pieces in that have longer wires (so they will sit further in my channel). Expectation that will offer assistance.

On the in addition to side, the myPilot and iCom are working incredible. I posted my discoveries on the most proficient method to get to the Bluetooth and Streaming Audio volume menus on a different thread.http://www.hearingaidforums.com/show...?t=2919&page=7

I will refresh after my following visit.

Galan

Confused Originally Posted by chuan

odd that i cannot discover the string in another point with respect to this. toward the beginning of today it happened again on my YES Vs. to begin with on the right, at that point the left side. sound returns on after i re-on the units. in any case, backpedals off. anybody has this experience?

i am returning them to my audi.

This happened to me too. Gratefully it happened while my audi had my guides associated with his PC so he could see the irregular sound. It was sent back, repaired and no issues from that point forward.

Confused Originally Posted by joesc

Befuddled, you were utilizing the Jabra 7010 center point would you say you weren't? Assuming this is the case, there is a mic volume handle under the board on the center point that would lessen the volume of the bluetooth mic. That is a setting that control how your voice sounds to guests. You might need to turn that down.

No Jabra Joesc.

My voice goes over boisterous while utilizing my iCom with my bluetooth portable/cell to my spouses versatile or landline.

chuan strange that i cannot discover the string in another point with respect to this. toward the beginning of today it happened again on my YES Vs. to begin with on the right, at that point the left side. sound returns on after i re-on the units. be that as it may, backpedals off. anybody has this experience?

i am returning them to my audi.

joesc Originally Posted by Confused

I am informed that I am excessively loud......even while talking delicately and wearing my iCom under 3 layers of garments. I have not advised my significant other how to cut back the volume on his versatile

Befuddled, you were utilizing the Jabra 7010 center point would you say you weren't? Provided that this is true, there is a mic volume handle under the board on the center point that would lessen the volume of the bluetooth mic. That is a setting that control how your voice sounds to guests. You might need to turn that down.

Confused Originally Posted by hippeaux

With regards to the iCom - a large number of us have been utilizing it and have been exceptionally satisfied. I've been informed that my voice is louder and more clear than it at any point was with different "normal" Bluetooth headsets.

I am informed that I am excessively loud......even while talking delicately and wearing my iCom under 3 layers of garments. I have not advised my significant other how to cut back the volume on his versatile

hippeaux A number of us are occupied with the VOIIS Bluetooth transmitter also. Shockingly, in any event here in the US, it doesn't have all the earmarks of being accessible at this time. There is a more seasoned rendition, it appears, that can be found on the off chance that one burrows profoundly enough, yet I think they may have redesigned from that point forward.

With regards to the iCom - a hefty portion of us have been utilizing it and have been extremely satisfied. I've been informed that my voice is louder and more clear than it at any point was with different "general" Bluetooth headsets.

Dutchy84 Hey, I'm likewise going to trial these HA's soon. I'm exceptionally inquisitive in the wake of perusing your posts!

I was thinking about whether anybody officially tried the TV Bluetooth transmitter thing? I thought it was a significant pity that these HA's don't have T-loop, yet in the event that the bluetooth association with the TV works fine, at that point it's not by any stretch of the imagination an issue I presume. I saw that the Voiis thing costs around 50 euro's, I surmise that is a decent cost! Considering the FM frameworks costs a mess more which are not totally secured with my medical coverage.

Right now I'm attempting the Epoqs XW with collector in the ear. I believe they're incredible. It has T-curl and still are little guides. They're practically imperceptible! I hear everything considerably more clearer and louder. At the outset I truly needed to get used to all the boisterous sounds, yet now it sounds normal.

Furthermore, the Streamer works superbly with the MP3 player, yet the telephone association is not that great. I can hear the others superbly, however the others can't hear me well. I need to put the streamer under my shirt or coat, at that point it improves. Likewise when I'm outside the association is greatly improved than when i'm in my room.

So I think the iCom has a superior quality with calling, alluding to your posts. All things considered, we'll see I trust I won't require the MyPilot incidentally, doesn't sound truly helpful. I scarcely utilize the volume controls with the Epoqs, so I figure I won't either with the Audeo.

Bye!

Confused Originally Posted by chuan

i saw the tip some time recently, didnt understand its new. is it a delicate silicone sort? i cannot see how it can remain set up in the event that it isnt hard plastic. as it is presently, my concern with the open fit arches are it slides out from time to time. regardless of the possibility that its a cozy fit, in the event that i dont utilize the retainer (which i have cut off)

here's to you

Chuan, backpedal and get ones with a retainer before you lose them.

The new tips are not out yet, so I can't disclose to you what they will be, yet they are little.

Leia I have discovered a more drawn out open arch (measure L) remaining better, I get it relies on upon the length of your ear waterway. My Phonak retainers might be diverse in light of the fact that I don't have a recipient in the trench tubes like Audeo Yes, yet my retainers are agreeable and unnoticeable. I have gone for of interest to cut retainers off from old tubes, and they didn't remain in my ears without them. I don't need to touch my amplifiers amid the day (microSavia with micromolds or Savia 211 with open vaults), unless some of the time while having a ton of fun in the bed with my sweetheart they may move a bit.

Kind respects,

Leia

chuan Originally Posted by Confused

No arches. This may give you a thought of the distinctive models that are accessible now.....look at the 'thin tips' which is about the measure of what you ought to expect:http://www.phonak-us.com/ccus/profes...es_fitting.htm

..........Sorry, attempted to send a photograph of the first tip that you find in the connection above yet it didn't work.....too enormous for this gathering. To give you a thought, it is 3/8's of an inch long. (I am metric....I trust I have this privilege).

i saw the tip some time recently, didnt understand its new. is it a delicate silicone sort? i cannot see how it can remain set up on the off chance that it isnt hard plastic. as it is currently, my concern with the open fit vaults are it slides out from time to time. regardless of the possibility that its a cozy fit, on the off chance that i dont utilize the retainer (which i have cut off)

salud

Confused Originally Posted by chuan

magnificent news to be sure. be that as it may, we would at present need vaults over the tips ceremony?

much appreciated

No vaults. This may give you a thought of the diverse models that are accessible now.....look at the 'thin tips' which is about the extent of what you ought to expect:http://www.phonak-us.com/ccus/profes...es_fitting.htm

..........Sorry, attempted to send a photograph of the first tip that you find in the connection above yet it didn't work.....too enormous for this discussion. To give you a thought, it is 3/8's of an inch long. (I am metric....I trust I have this privilege).

chuan Originally Posted by Confused

Since we are discussing the Audeo YES, I expect we as a whole have the Receiver In The Canal (RITE). In spite of the fact that, it would seem that a few people are posting hear wearing different guides in light of the fact that there is such a great amount of data on this post could help other guide clients.

As I have said earlier; Phonak is turning out with new tips which will be accessible (ideally) at some point the finish of May. They will be little and exceptionally attentive.

I will post when I know anything, yet the USA may have them to begin with, so you may be telling me..........

magnificent news in fact. be that as it may, we would in any case require arches over the tips ritual?

much appreciated

English Originally Posted by Neilk

English, I didn't say it here as I would not like to create negative assessment ... my correct amplifier additionally continued removing on me, just as it were losing power. It begun around 2 weeks into my trial. One excursion back to Phonak did nothing. The second outing they either settled or supplanted the innards and it has been sans inconvenience since. Considering that these are smaller than normal hardware, periodic disappointments can be an issue with any brand. I don't think it is a Phonak issue, as long as they endeavor to determine the issue.

A debt of gratitude is in order for that, It regards listen (no play on words) that it was not simply me. I am as yet awed with the entire bundle however...

The substitution HA (and it was a substitution) has begun with a similar issue in addition to the Blue tooth work has a static commotion like a radio not exactly in order to the station.

2 questions.

1. What do you think my alternatives are on the removed issue, get another swap or request a temp substitution and a fix of the present one (I was thinking this may should be tried appropriately rather than simply getting another HA which may as of now have been with another person)

2. Is the blue tooth issue only some sort of calibrating thing or is his yet another equipment issue. On the off chance that it is I clearly require a substitution (once more).

In the event that I can't get things sorted I should go for another blue tooth competent model. I frantically require this for my work NOW.

What do the insightful and great here think?

Confused Originally Posted by piratevol

I have the 10mm arches. The one in my left ear fits really well. I likely just need to drive it in two or three times each day. The one in my privilege is a bit too huge. It works out possibly once every hour least, once in a while 2 or 3 times 60 minutes. The 8mm arches I utilized with the Dual were too little and worked out of both ears. Why don't the HA organizations make more sizes of these things? I would have a solid match with a 9mm vault in my privilege alongside the 10mm in my left. Does anybody know whether the vaults from different makers are compatible, and has anybody seen 9mm arches?

Since we are discussing the Audeo YES, I expect we as a whole have the Receiver In The Canal (RITE). In spite of the fact that, it would appear that a few people are posting hear wearing different guides in light of the fact that there is such a great amount of data on this post could help other guide clients.

As I have specified earlier; Phonak is turning out with new tips which will be accessible (ideally) at some point the finish of May. They will be little and exceptionally tactful.

I will post when I know anything, however the USA may have them in the first place, so you may be telling me..........

piratevol I have the 10mm vaults. The one in my left ear fits quite well. I most likely just need to drive it in a few times each day. The one in my privilege is a bit too huge. It works out perhaps once every hour least, once in a while 2 or 3 times 60 minutes. The 8mm arches I utilized with the Dual were too little and worked out of both ears. Why don't the HA organizations make more sizes of these things? I would have a solid match with a 9mm vault in my privilege alongside the 10mm in my left. Does anybody know whether the arches from different producers are tradable, and has anybody seen 9mm vaults?

jay_man2 Originally Posted by chuan

i implied the retainer, yes. for need of a superior word.

A few producers allude to it as a games bolt.

galan Although I don't have any experience I have heard that without the additional piece (called an ear hold) the earpiece tends to work out from jaw development (ie, biting, and so forth) and that a custom form might be required.

chuan Originally Posted by galan

What plastic recieving wire? My audi says that additional piece is to help keep the earpiece set up!

i implied the retainer, yes. for need of a superior word.

Confused Originally Posted by galan

I at long last found an awesome audi in my general vicinity that conveys different brands and we talked about a few brands including the Siemens and Phonak models. At that point I saw the measure of the two. The Phonak Yes is substantially slimmer and appears to work better with my glasses. The slimmer profile and the reality they should create a wealthier more full solid than the Siemens was the last component that influenced me to the YES. I know there is an exchange off regarding expected battery life, yet I was hoping to supplant batteries once per week in any case. At that point something really dumbfounding happened. My audi talked me out of purchasing the more costly IX for the V show, saying that the V was the best value for the money (my words not hers), and that I would not miss alternate components. Her involvement with past HA clients trialing both the IX and the V models found no distinction in sound quality, and so forth. Thus, I have requested the YES V alongside the iCom and myPilot remote.

Furthermore, darn it, there has been so much positive input on the YES from this gathering I figure Phonak is not ready to keep up. All models of the YES are on delay purchase, so I am waiting two weeks to get fitted. For reference, here is the thing that I am paying:

Audeo Yes V: $2,300 each (the IX show runs $2,695 each)

iCom Bluetooth: $250

myPilot Remote: $400

Will refresh once I get fitted.

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250 Hz L - 10, R - 5

500 Hz L - 15, R - 10

1000 Hz L - 15, R - 10

2000 Hz L - 30, R - 20

3000 Hz L - 70, R - 70

4000 Hz L - 65, R-70

6000 Hz L - 60, R - 60

8000 Hz L - 60, R - 50

Much obliged for giving us a size examination - it's decent to know we are wearing the "slimmer" guide!

To the extent the battery life; utilizing the myPilot and furthermore the iCom both utilize a great deal of energy, so your batteries won't most recent one week relying upon how frequently you utilize these extras.

Galan, you are simply trialing them before giving over cash I hope....no? Despite the fact that we have had positive encounters with the YES does not imply that they are for all, so testing any guide out first is of most extreme significance.

Anticipating hearing you sees when you get them!!!!!!

galan What plastic reception apparatus? My audi says that additional piece is to help keep the earpiece set up!

chuan ok another refresh folks

my issues (couldnt hear delicate discourse) is currently settled. audi deactivated sound recoup, and helped the yield. so now i can hear better, tho at the cost of marginal tinny hints of mechanical commotions. will tweak more to address this.

since i've cut off (!!) the retainer plastic radio wire, the open fit vaults are not that cozy any longer and now and then comes free tho not dropping out of the channel. anybody has an answer for this?

cheers all!

Jay Originally posted by Neilk:

Jay, I don't know about that. I thought I saw something route back about an extremely essential remote that was incorporated, which liked volume as it were. In any case, now I can't discover anything on it.

Noted, Neilk...Thanks for looking.

BTW, I trust you were specifying in a prior string that the Audi hours are awkward for working individuals like ourselves. I simply discovered that mine is just open Tues., Wed., and Friday, from 9 to 5

Jay [COLOR="Cyan"]For reference, here is the thing that I am paying:

Audeo Yes V: $2,300 each (the IX demonstrate runs $2,695 each)

iCom Bluetooth: $250

myPilot Remote: $400

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A debt of gratitude is in order for the input. Particularly the value you are paying. It affirms my doubts that I am being cheated. My audi cited me $2,850 each for the V's The IX's she said would cost me ~$340-$365 more than the V's, each. She said that there was no adaptability in their evaluating While my advantage is very great, they are taking ceaselessly a piece of it by cheating me. With my protection scope, I can just buy my HA's from one organization. With my $5,000 advantage, I could get the V's and the MyPilot through your audi w/out any out of pocket cost. In any case, I am being cited ~$1,300 out of pocket...so my $5,000 advantage is truly just $3,700. They know they have hold me hostage.

Jay Originally Posted by Confused

$560!!!!!! I just purchased the myPilot remote here in England for £175 which is about $260. I think you would likewise get the expense (VAT) off which is around 14%. The issue you would have is the set up. How "tight" would you say you are with your audi? Do you think you could converse with him/her and do an arrangement?

BTW, the iCom is £190 (about $270). This does not should be set up............so something you and all may need to consider.My audi has been a flat out gem!!!!!! I can't applaud him enough! On the off chance that you need to send him an email, his name is John Lloyd: http://www.crystalhearinguk.co.uk/He clearly does not know me as "Confounded" Send me a PM and I will give you my name and answer any inquiries.

Much appreciated, Confused. The distinction in cost would practically pay for my airfare I'm not prepared to email John Lloyd yet, but rather when I get my HA's perhaps I could purchase the MyPilot and Icon through him and spare a couple of bucks

piratevol - - - - -

250-10; 1k-15; 2k-20; 3k-25; 4k-40; 6k-65; 8k-60, both ears about the same.

Hello Jay. The audi that fitted the YES didn't think the Sound Recover was fundamental with my present misfortune. She said I had enough hair cells left that immaculate enhancement would work without the need to move those frequencies down to a lower level. My discourse acknowledgment is over 90% unaided so the genuine reason I purchased a guide was to reestablish music happiness that was contrarily affected by the vanishing upper octaves.

I have the myPilot remote control. I didn't buy the ICom bluetooth gadget as I don't utilize my cell aside from more often than not in my auto. My Acura has an exceptionally decent bluetooth ability worked in so I'm totally handsfree in the auto.

Since I have such a concentrated high recurrence misfortune, utilizing the volume control on the myPilot is essentially a treble tone change. I can likewise go from the Auto program to the music program or discourse in commotion. In the Music program, I have almost no usefulness turned on, even the criticism canceller. I keep an eye on just turn on the Music program tuning in at home. In the auto, the expanded opened up auto commotion notwithstanding the music balances the extra huge pick up without the input canceller. I for the most part keep it in auto.

Expectation this aides, and good fortunes on your voyage.

Neilk Welcome to the club YES! Galan

Jay, I don't know about that. I thought I saw something path back about an exceptionally fundamental remote that was incorporated, which liked volume as it were. Be that as it may, now I can't discover anything on it.

galan Like numerous others on this gathering, I have at long last gone to the acknowledgment that I could profit by getting HAs. In this way, I have been doing my exploration for a first time buy and have gotten a considerable measure of important data from this discussion. Along these lines, as an approach to express profound gratitude I thought I would share my encounters here - I plan to refresh this string all through the procedure.

In the wake of having my listening ability tried at one place that exclusive offers the Oticon ($6400 for match of Dual XW), I began looking. I was keen on a BTE display with a RITE (appears to address my high recurrence hearing misfortune) and with Bluetooth alternative, yet didn't care for the reality the Duals were not stereo. I likewise needed something that was programmed, yet that I could control remotely. After further research I settled in on the Siemens Pure or Phonak Audeo Yes, since both appear to address my sort of hearing misfortune and have stereo BT and remotes. I enjoyed the specialized depictions of the TEK alternatives on the Siemens, however had many worries over the Siemens notoriety for sounding unforgiving or tinny as a few people portrayed them. All things considered, sound quality and solace are the most essential components, isn't that so?

I at long last found an awesome audi in my general vicinity that conveys various brands and we talked about a few brands including the Siemens and Phonak models. At that point I saw the extent of the two. The Phonak Yes is substantially slimmer and appears to work better with my glasses. The slimmer profile and the reality they should deliver a wealthier more full solid than the Siemens was the last variable that influenced me to the YES. I know there is an exchange off regarding expected battery life, however I was hoping to supplant batteries once per week in any case. At that point something really amazing happened. My audi talked me out of purchasing the more costly IX for the V display, saying that the V was the best value for the money (my words not hers), and that I would not miss alternate components. Her involvement with past HA clients trialing both the IX and the V models found no distinction in sound quality, and so on. In this way, I have requested the YES V alongside the iCom and myPilot remote.

What's more, darn it, there has been so much positive criticism on the YES from this discussion that I figure Phonak is not ready to keep up. All models of the YES are on delay purchase, so I am waiting two weeks to get fitted. For reference, here is the thing that I am paying:

Audeo Yes V: $2,300 each (the IX display runs $2,695 each)

iCom Bluetooth: $250

myPilot Remote: $400

Will refresh once I get fitted.

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250 Hz L - 10, R - 5

500 Hz L - 15, R - 10

1000 Hz L - 15, R - 10

2000 Hz L - 30, R - 20

3000 Hz L - 70, R - 70

4000 Hz L - 65, R-70

6000 Hz L - 60, R - 60

8000 Hz L - 60, R - 50

Confused Originally Posted by Jay

My audi cited me $560 for the remote. I saw one on the web for $475. Is there an expert change part to the gadget?

$560!!!!!! I just purchased the myPilot remote here in England for £175 which is about $260. I think you would likewise get the assessment (VAT) off which is around 14%. The issue you would have is the set up. How "tight" would you say you are with your audi? Do you think you could converse with him/her and do an arrangement?

BTW, the iCom is £190 (about $270). This does not should be set up............so something you and all may need to consider.My audi has been a flat out gem!!!!!! I can't adulate him enough! On the off chance that you need to send him an email, his name is John Lloyd: http://www.crystalhearinguk.co.uk/He clearly does not know me as "Confounded" Send me a PM and I will give you my name and answer any inquiries.

Jay Originally Posted by Neilk

Apologies, Jay, can't enable you with the value contrast to part. I just disclosed to her through and through .. YES IX ... didn't abandon it open for discourse, didn't talk evaluating until the point that it was finished. To the extent the audi saying that either has enough "enhancement", I'm certain she's right. Be that as it may, the intensification is just a piece of the perplex. It's the means by which the sound is yield, the lucidity of the intensification for one. Also, particularly how the frequencies are figured out how to move beyond those that you won't hear paying little mind to the measure of intensification. Phonak's "SoundRecover" has a considerably greater impact than just intensification. A bullhorn is utilized for intensification ... what amount of what somebody says through one is reasonable? Indeed, even with PCs ... utilizing similar speakers with a similar PC, distinctive sound cards will sound vastly different. Some more clear and sharp than others ... you get what you pay for. The more you pay, the better the sound preparing.

Howdy Neilk, Thanks once more! A "bullhorn". Another extraordinary relationship. I drive via prepare and can once in a while comprehend the boisterous misshaped voices leaving the Union Station amplifiers. Would one be able to utilize the Yes IX's successfully w/out the MiPilot? My audi cited me $560 for the remote. I saw one on the web for $475. Is there an expert change segment to the gadget?

Jay Originally Posted by piratevol

250-10; 1k-15; 2k-20; 3k-25; 4k-40; 6k-65; 8k-60, both "Sound Recover is not turned on with my YES now. I’m utilizing only the essential music program to get the astounding outcomes leaning to my framework...

Piratevol, Thanks for imparting your experience to us! I am to start with phase of choosing a HA and I discover an incentive in your remarks. Do you want to please reveal to me why you have Sound Recover killed? Have you attempted it? Do you think it would enhance your effectively great sound acknowledgment with it on?

Without the MyPilot, how might you make modifications without the help of your audi? What do you do in situations that are too noisy, or too delicate? What's more, would you be able to play Judas on again without the help of your audi?

Neilk WOW!! Much obliged to you Piratevol. I need to concede, I was thinking about how the Streamer contrasted execution shrewd with the Phonak combine. Once more, it would appear that you get what you pay for. It sounds like the Streamer is practical, more so than the Tek was, however like the iCom/myPilot/YES combo is more agreeable, more costly ... yet, again ... what you pay for.

Gracious ... also, welcome to the YES sweethearts club

piratevol 250-10; 1k-15; 2k-20; 3k-25; 4k-40; 6k-65; 8k-60, both ears about the same.

Much obliged to you parents for all the data you’ve given on this gathering.

I’ve as of late joined the amplifier wearing group. In view of the remarks from real clients on here, I chose to attempt two premium items, the Oticon Dual Connect XW and the Phonak Audeo Yes IX.

I as of late turned 50. Following quite a while of boisterous music (home, shows, and in band), firearms, control hardware, and just heredity, I lost the capacity to hear certain sounds, particularly cymbals. I have a genuinely pleasant home theater setup with Pioneer first class segments and Definitive Technology speakers. It was ending up noticeably agonizingly clear that I was not hearing sounds that up to this point I could listen.

I started with the Oticon. I observed it to be a decent item. I was astonished at my capacity to hear high recurrence percussion, music in voices, horns, and so forth that I didn’t know I was absent. While my discourse acknowledgment was high (more than 90%), I could tune in without concentrating such a great amount to get it. I realized that I was presently a listening device wearer with the change I was encountering. The Dual Connect XW is an extremely pleasant item.

After two or three visits with my Oticon audi, I grabbed the YES IX. Two or three things turned out to be quickly obvious. As noted on the board, the YES is an extremely common sounding gadget. I didn’t see the “amplification” as much as with the Dual. I thought the YES was marginally better in louder situations. I spent a couple of days rotating until the point that taking a seat with them in my home theater one Saturday.

Following a couple of hours it turned out to be evident that the YES is a more melodic gadget to my ear. I am astounded at the level of definition these little gadgets can convey to my music satisfaction. Best cap cymbals that I thought I could recollect were there once more, substantially more so with the YES. Despite the fact that the promoted recurrence extend is not as high with the YES versus Double, the YES conveys greater clearness at higher frequencies. Sound Recover is not turned on with my YES now. I’m utilizing only the fundamental music program to get the superb outcomes inclining to my framework. Now, I had just had 1 visit with the YES audi versus 2 with the Dual. I restored the Duals the following week.

I don't tune in to music with IPODs or downloads. I listen more to DVD-Audios or SACD’s. Thusly, I didn’t get the ICom. I utilize my Bluetooth in my Acura TL, yet for the most part don’t utilize the cell that much. I enjoyed cell calls with the Dual Streamer, yet the remote usefulness was not all that great as the myPilot with its unmistakable screen and capacity to demonstrate the status/settings of the guide, regardless of whether program, volume level, or battery levels of the guides and remote. On the off chance that I later need to include the BT ability, I can purchase the usefulness. The Streamer is a great deal more affordable (under $300) than the joined Phonak gadgets (about $700).

Much obliged again for all the data here. I’m another fulfilled YES IX client.

joesc Originally Posted by Neilk

Joe, as you've clearly had both ... how does the Streamer's remote usefulness contrast with the myPilot? Littler is quite often better.

I really haven't had them all, yet have seen each of the three (streamer, Tek and Icom/MyPilot combo). The streamer resembles a mp3 player, and it's around 3 inches long by 1.3 wide. Not a major 2x2 square like the iCom. It has volume control catches and isolate catches for telephone and music. These all work to control your projects too. No screen however. By and by, dont truly think you require a screen to change programs, as the guide will let you know by the beeps on program change. Volume change is to whatever your OK with. Also, with the streamer, you can kill the guides mic. Add up to bundle was 350, though with the iCom/myPilot combo, each was more than 400, so 800 aggregate!

You can see data on the streamer here:http://www.oticonusa.com/eprise/main...09_proof_1.pdf

also, here:http://www.oticonusa.com/SiteGen/Upl...r_ifu_2009.pdf

Other individuals in the discussion have discussed the streamer. Look at their posts here:http://hearingaidforums.com/showthread.php?t=3077http://hearingaidforums.com/showthread.php?t=2286

I concur with you about the Tek, and keeping in mind that it has everything, it's much too huge. My dad had it, and when I played with it, I reflect your dissensions about it.

Presently don't misunderstand me, I like the possibility of my iCom, simply know it could be better when I contrast it with the streamer. My optimal is diminish the extent of the iCom catch considerably, and have extra little catches for remote components. The myPilot? Eh, scarcely utilize it, for the most part in light of the fact that the Exelias have program and volume controls on the guide and I despise conveying something else with me. As of now feel like I require a man satchel (no offense women) to convey all the garbage I need to tote along.

Neilk Originally Posted by joesc

I for one lean toward the Oticon streamer which is a mix remote and bluetooth gadget the span of a stick mp3 player over the myPilot/iCom combo that Phonak pushes on us. The individuals who have the open door should trial the Oticon item too.

I would have run with the Oticon Epoq in light of the less prominent streamer on the off chance that they had helps sufficiently effective for my misfortune. In any case, the power Epoq evidently isn't as effective as the power Exelia I wear now. Not that I don't care for my iCom, simply wish it was littler.

Simply my two pennies.

Joe, as you've obviously had both ... how does the Streamer's remote usefulness contrast with the myPilot? Littler is quite often better.

I can just look at the myPilot/iCom to Siemen's Tek ... also, observe Phonak to be best because of its prevalent sound quality and its UI. I lean toward the menu driven show of the myPilot to the different catches on the Tek which don't appear to offer all that much control. The Tek just offered like 5 obscure volume settings which didn't generally appear to fill in instead of the myPilot's give or take 10 ticks of 2db every which really influence the volume not surprisingly.

joesc I by and by incline toward the Oticon streamer which is a blend remote and bluetooth gadget the extent of a stick mp3 player over the myPilot/iCom combo that Phonak pushes on us. The individuals who have the open door should trial the Oticon item also.

I would have run with the Oticon Epoq on account of the less prominent streamer in the event that they had helps sufficiently intense for my misfortune. Be that as it may, the power Epoq clearly isn't as intense as the power Exelia I wear now. Not that I don't care for my iCom, simply wish it was littler.

Simply my two pennies.

Neilk Sorry, Jay, can't enable you with the value distinction to part. I just revealed to her inside and out .. YES IX ... didn't abandon it open for discourse, didn't talk evaluating until the point that it was finished. To the extent the audi saying that either has enough "intensification", I'm certain she's right. Be that as it may, the enhancement is just a piece of the astound. It's the means by which the sound is yield, the lucidity of the enhancement for one. What's more, particularly how the frequencies are figured out how to move beyond those that you won't hear paying little respect to the measure of intensification. Phonak's "SoundRecover" has a significantly greater impact than just intensification. A bullhorn is utilized for enhancement ... what amount of what somebody says through one is reasonable? Indeed, even with PCs ... utilizing similar speakers with a similar PC, distinctive sound cards will sound entirely different. Some more clear and sharp than others ... you get what you pay for. The more you pay, the better the sound handling.

Jay [QUOTE=Neilk]Jay, my audi said that the distinction in highlights wasn't justified regardless of the cost as the additional items wouldn't help me because of my high recurrence hearing misfortune. That was for both the Pures and the YES. I for one accept, maybe inaccurately, that the better recurrence transposition of the IX's might just have any kind of effect notwithstanding what my audi stated, as my pledge perception is particularly expanded by them. Having the capacity to comprehend my murmuring neighbor/companion is justified, despite all the trouble alone. My better half has consummate hearing, and she experiences considerable difficulties that neighbor ... presently I hear her superior to my significant other So my audi assumes that she was attempting to help me, attempting to spare me cash ... what's more, she knew I was ready to go the additional cost, so it wasn't care for she needed to persuade me to spend.

With respect to the Blue-tooth ... it is low power, so I'm not stressed over any conceivable reactions, for example, PDA useage is as far as anyone knows presenting one to. Truth be told, a Blue-tooth headset should be vastly improved than holding the telephone to one's head. Blue-tooth run is just around 30 feet ... the wireless needs to reach to the closest tower, significantly more than 30 feet.

Neilk, Thanks for the Blue-tooth information. Awesome clarification!

I discovered today that the Kaiser hearing advantage is not transferable...so I have to work with Hearex. I think I'll attempt to discover a Hearex office with an audi that has encounter fitting the Audeo Yes. The audi in the workplace nearest to my house is extremely youthful. I think I have shirts more seasoned than her. I think the fitting procedure is a vital part, and you can't beat understanding. It took her 3-days to hit me up to reveal to me that the V's and 500's would have enough intensification for my level of hearing misfortune. Besides with the awkward available time, I might be in an ideal situation disparaging a Hearex office close work. Do you review the value contrast between the V's and the IX's?

Neilk Originally Posted by xbulder

they are smart in that they are making you pay for additional stuff

I don't generally think along these lines, as the item is certainly a lot better than the Siemens alternative. Better solid, lighter weight, better usefulness.

xbulder Originally Posted by hippeaux

I began pondering about the iCom and myPilot association. As various us have seen, it is conceivable to raise a "Bluetooth Volume" screen on the myPilot, however it appears to only act in an indistinguishable manner from the "Programmed" volume control.

My hypothesis is that the Bluetooth volume control is a leftover of old programming, potentially to be reestablished as a future redesign.

I'm believing that initially there was not going to be an iCom, quite recently the myPilot. I base this hypothesis, outlandish as it might be, on a few factors:1. Most HA makers have a solitary unit to deal with the elements of both the iCom and myPilot; e.g. Oticon's Streamer and Siemens' Tek.2. The myPilot has a (maybe remaining or future choice) program for controlling Bluetooth volume.3. The myPilot has an indistinguishable little USB charging/programming port as on the iCom. Also, the myPilot has an indistinguishable 3.5mm sound jack (but shut with a plastic attachment) as that found on the iCom.

Maybe Phonak couldn't crush all of usefulness into the myPilot that they needed, or potentially they felt it was getting too overwhelming.

Or, then again perhaps I'm giving my creative ability a chance to run widespread. What are your considerations?

they are smart in that they are making you pay for additional stuff

hippeaux I like that the iCom is littler and lighter than the others. I was simply conjecturing as I've seen questions with respect to some of what I addressed in my past post.

Concerning the pendulum impact - I've encountered it with even the iCom, however I'm certain the others are more regrettable due to included weight. I've tackled that issue by utilizing a tie cut/bar simply over the connectors on the string.

Neilk My considerations are that I incline toward the different iCom BT connector and separate remote. The iCom is a great deal more agreeable to wear than the consolidated Siemens Tek, littler, lighter, and doesn't do the pendulum swing when you stroll as the Tek does. I can't remark on the Streamer as I have no involvement with it. I think Phonak has a superior arrangement than Siemens in its different gadgets, notwithstanding the general cost being more. The iCom works much better as well, preferred sound and clearness over the Tek.

hippeaux I began pondering about the iCom and myPilot association. As various us have seen, it is conceivable to raise a "Bluetooth Volume" screen on the myPilot, however it appears to only act in an indistinguishable manner from the "Programmed" volume control.

My hypothesis is that the Bluetooth volume control is a leftover of old programming, potentially to be reestablished as a future overhaul.

I'm feeling that initially there was not going to be an iCom, quite recently the myPilot. I base this hypothesis, fantastical as it might be, on a few factors:1. Most HA producers have a solitary unit to deal with the elements of both the iCom and myPilot; e.g. Oticon's Streamer and Siemens' Tek.2. The myPilot has a (maybe remaining or future alternative) program for controlling Bluetooth volume.3. The myPilot has an indistinguishable small scale USB charging/programming port as on the iCom. What's more, the myPilot has an indistinguishable 3.5mm sound jack (but shut with a plastic fitting) as that found on the iCom.

Maybe Phonak couldn't press all of usefulness into the myPilot that they needed, and additionally they felt it was getting too substantial.

Or, then again perhaps I'm giving my creative ability a chance to run uncontrolled. What are your contemplations?

Neilk Jay, my audi said that the distinction in highlights wasn't justified regardless of the cost as the additional items wouldn't help me because of my high recurrence hearing misfortune. That was for both the Pures and the YES. I for one accept, maybe erroneously, that the better recurrence transposition of the IX's might just have any kind of effect in spite of what my audi stated, as my pledge cognizance is particularly expanded by them. Having the capacity to comprehend my muttering neighbor/companion is justified, despite all the trouble alone. My significant other has idealize hearing, and she experiences considerable difficulties that neighbor ... presently I hear her superior to my better half So my audi assumes that she was attempting to help me, attempting to spare me cash ... also, she knew I was eager to go the additional cost, so it wasn't care for she needed to persuade me to spend.

With respect to the Blue-tooth ... it is low power, so I'm not stressed over any conceivable reactions, for example, mobile phone useage is as far as anyone knows presenting one to. Truth be told, a Blue-tooth headset should be greatly improved than holding the telephone to one's head. Blue-tooth extend is just around 30 feet ... the wireless needs to reach to the closest tower, significantly more than 30 feet.

English, I didn't say it here as I would not like to produce negative notion ... my correct listening device additionally continued removing on me, as if it were losing power. It begun around 2 weeks into my trial. One trek back to Phonak did nothing. The second trek they either settled or supplanted the innards and it has been without inconvenience since. Considering that these are scaled down hardware, infrequent disappointments can be an issue with any brand. I don't think it is a Phonak issue, as long as they endeavor to determine the issue.

English It's been a while however I thought I would refresh any individual who is intrigued on my encounters with my Yes V's.

I had thought about the alternative of getting the IX's yet chosen I didn't require the additional capacities.

So far the main awful experience was with the correct HA. It continued removing, not going off simply going extremely "dull". I attempted different types with it, notwithstanding attempting simply wearing the culpable HA without anyone else, however a similar thing continued incident.

On the off chance that the sound level continued as before it didn't cut off yet in the event that, for instance, I went outside, it would, or in the event that I turned the TV on.

I have had it supplanted now and the issue has left

I sincerely can not consider one other thing that isn't right with these HA's

The blue tooth work is a gift, despite the fact that it is difficult to hear calm music on a prepare.

Would not go anyplace without the myPilot it is so valuable, I frequently utilize the alert capacity as an update and nobody else can hear it.

The iCom works incredible and gets my voice even under a cotton Tshirt. I now and then wear it outside just to get individuals asking me what it is. A few times individuals don't understand I have HA's in till at that point.

On account of everybody here, continue posting!!

James (oh no I let slip my name)

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Jay Originally Posted by Neilk

Stunning, it's been occupied here, while I've been occupied outside getting a charge out of the climate and a pet expo and my pet

Jay, as Confused stated, see the contrasts between the YES V and IX on the site ... in any case, make it a stride facilitate ... my HearX audi gave me 60 days to trial helps at no cost for return or trade. They CAN do as such, so don't take no for an answer, trial the YES V AND the YES IX's, and check whether the distinction in value, which is generous, is justified, despite all the trouble to you. I've generally run with the lower cost, and my audi recommended I run with the V's ... I said NO, this time will help out myself as my listening ability is critical for me in my work and in addition in my life. I need every one of the fancy odds and ends this time around, enough with going for the mid-line and not knowing whether I could have improved. This was in the wake of venturing down on the main match I attempted, the Siemens Pure 500 ... I at first needed to trial the 700 as the proprietor of my organization cherished them, she said it wouldn't have any kind of effect to me. Truth be told, he began grousing sometime later that they couldn't exactly get them tweaked very right. I wasn't content with the Pure 500, yet wasn't cheerful in the past with different Siemens. So I demanded the YES IX's and haven't thought back since. They completely awed me, which none of my past guides have even verged on doing, those being the Siemens Music and the Phonak Action. The main change I've had made after the underlying out of the crate programming/setup, was to turn on the Blue-tooth voice dial and review in the iCom ... which my audi didn't know about. All things considered, HearX is a Siemens organization, push them over whatever else. I don't know whether Siemens has a section proprietorship or speculation ... be that as it may, they should give Hearx a really decent remuneration for pushing them. Truth be told, another audi two or three urban areas over went to Sonus in the wake of being a private firm, and began driving Siemens rather than Oticon as he used to swear by. Makes me ponder about Siemens business rehearses.

Much appreciated, Neilk... I concur with your remarks. I'll get some information about a 60-day correlation trial. Why do you think your audi recommended you run with the V's and not the XI's? Cost? A superior possibility they would contrast all the more positively and the Seimen's they were pushing?

My family has Kaiser. It outsources the hearing advantage to Hearex. I am beginning my due perseverance, now. I'm trusting I have the alternative to take the advantage to ANY hearing focus so I can arrange the best arrangement, on the grounds that the markup is so high. Kaiser framed a joint wander with Hearex, years back. Possibly Siemen's did likewise. At one time, Kaiser possessed 10%. This resembles an irreconcilable situation. For instance, Hearex cited me around $6,300 for the V's and the MyPilot, which would bring my out of pocket to $1,300. In contrasting this and two web costs I found for the V's...$1,750 each and $1,999 each...plus $475 for the MyPilot, it appears as though they are charging nearly $1,900-$2,300 more...and I can either take it and utilize the $5,000 advantage, or abandon it and go somewhere else and pay tons all the more, expecting the advantage is not transferable. I understand the additional estimation of a neighborhood audi, and the reality they have to pay lease, and so forth. What's more, I am so lucky to get the liberal advantage through my better half's boss. Be that as it may, on the off chance that they have a hostage group of onlookers in a Kaiser understanding, I feel it weakens the advantage as they can cheat and they have no motivation to lessen their costs. In the event that another inside would give me a $200 markdown, and Hearex won't, at that point the $5,000 truly moves toward becoming $4,800. FYI, through Hearex the Pure 500's would complete a $500-$600 of pocket cost, including the remote. That is a major distinction. You and others have persuaded me to run with Phonak...You get what you pay for... also, to hear better it's justified, despite all the trouble

Do you think the Blue Tooth innovation conveys an additional wellbeing peril?

Jay Originally Posted by Confused

I ask why so a considerable lot of us have purchased helps before that we didn't care for AND paid a little fortune for just to sit in a drawer? Ideally, with the learning that we are picking up from this gathering, it will be recently that - in the past!!!!

Neilk and I both attempted the Pure 700's and both loathed them. Fantine began a string on them here: http://www.hearingaidforums.com/show...highlight=Pure I likewise trialed another match of Siemen's after that and I couldn't last over a day with them. It is ideal MarvinMartian is taking a break from the gathering until his ENT appt end May........you would get an earful of his conclusion on Siemens

Neilk and I both now have the YES IX's and both love them....along with numerous! My audiogram is near yours yet there are different things to consider.

I for one would contrast the YES V with the IX. On the off chance that you take a gander at their site, you can do a correlation on what the distinctions are: http://www.phonak.com/purchaser/produ...v_features.htm

Good fortunes Jay!

Befuddled, a debt of gratitude is in order for the connection. It was extremely useful. I understand. The IX's have highlights excluded in the V's and III's that we as a whole could profit by, paying little respect to our level of hearing misfortune.

Neilk Originally Posted by islanderbaw

Just to infuse some of my considerations . . . I excessively attempted the Siemans Pure 700s and disliked them (nor the Tek gadget for bluetooth and gushing). I attempted the Oticon Dual Connect (with the Streamer) and cherish it. I think those here searching for a Siemens option should look at Oticon too. I trust it is a lower cost elective also; not a considerable measure but rather a bit relying upon your gadgets.

I'd be accessible to answer any inquiries concerning them and the streamer capacities.

What's more, you are welcome to do as such. I need to concede, I have never attempted Oticon items. The main reason being that none of the 3 audi's I've utilized pushed them. Truth be told, as I specified, the special case that pushed Oticon was only a bit excessively bother to get to for a working individual hour-wise, and he has changed to driving Siemens subsequent to running with Sonus as opposed to proceeding as private. I will put down Siemens as I didn't care for their quality, and their pushiness, yet won't say terrible in regards to different brands as I don't have any acquaintance with them, have not experienced them.

islanderbaw Just to infuse some of my musings . . . I excessively attempted the Siemans Pure 700s and disliked them (nor the Tek gadget for bluetooth and spilling). I attempted the Oticon Dual Connect (with the Streamer) and cherish it. I think those here searching for a Siemens option should look at Oticon also. I trust it is a lower cost elective too; not a considerable measure but rather a bit relying upon your gadgets.

I'd be accessible to answer any inquiries concerning them and the streamer capacities.

Neilk Wow, it's been occupied here, while I've been occupied outside appreciating the climate and a pet expo and my pet

Jay, as Confused stated, see the contrasts between the YES V and IX on the site ... yet, make it a stride promote ... my HearX audi gave me 60 days to trial helps at no cost for return or trade. They CAN do as such, so don't take no for an answer, trial the YES V AND the YES IX's, and check whether the distinction in value, which is generous, is justified, despite all the trouble to you. I've generally run with the lower cost, and my audi recommended I run with the V's ... I said NO, this time will help out myself as my listening ability is essential for me in my work and additionally in my life. I need every one of the fancy odds and ends this time around, enough with going for the mid-line and not knowing whether I could have improved. This was subsequent to venturing down on the main match I attempted, the Siemens Pure 500 ... I at first needed to trial the 700 as the proprietor of my organization cherished them, she said it wouldn't have any kind of effect to me. Truth be told, he began grousing afterward that they couldn't exactly get them tweaked very right. I wasn't content with the Pure 500, however wasn't glad in the past with different Siemens. So I demanded the YES IX's and haven't thought back since. They completely awed me, which none of my past guides have even verged on doing, those being the Siemens Music and the Phonak Action. The main change I've had made after the underlying out of the crate programming/setup, was to turn on the Blue-tooth voice dial and review in the iCom ... which my audi didn't know about. All things considered, HearX is a Siemens organization, push them over whatever else. I don't know whether Siemens has a section possession or speculation ... yet, they should give Hearx a really pleasant remuneration for pushing them. Truth be told, another audi a few urban areas over went to Sonus in the wake of being a private firm, and began driving Siemens rather than Oticon as he used to swear by. Makes me ponder about Siemens business hones.

chuan Originally Posted by Confused

Great begin, however you unquestionably require some tweaking which I am certain will deal with your issues. It would be ideal if you keep notes and examine them with your audi. To the extent hair commotion, that is something that couldn't be sorted for me unless I needed to lose other needed sounds. In spite of the fact that, I am never mindful of it with the exception of when I initially place them in or unless I consider it which is exceptionally uncommon.

I excessively tragically cut off my recieving wire on my NHS aids....they would not remain in by any means!

To the extent the arches; do you mean the silicone tips? Is it accurate to say that they resemble a hard clear plastic? At some point one month from now Phonak is turning out with new clear tips which are evidently better than the ones they have out at this point. Advise your audi you need to trial them before you settle on any choices.

Programming link? Not a chance. Why might you require it?

that is correct i will change them.

the arches are the open fit delicate straightforward silicone tips. i think mine are too little which arent cozy after i remove the antennas(retainers).

i was recently pondering about the link cos they were appeared in the manual, so i thought possibly its included. nah, i wont be customizing them.

a debt of gratitude is in order for your remarks

Confused Originally Posted by chuan

alright folks..

i've worn it since yesterday.. so far its great. for a first fit.

here are my notes:

great:

no commotion from AC in my home.

no wind commotion.

no input unless i container my hands over the HAs.

i could hear my children clearer

more mindful of beeps and so forth

no unnatural sounding foundation commotion

not all that great:

couldnt grasp delicate discourse (both in swarm and in room) - possibly my high freq misfortune

a touch of commotion from my hair (i have medium length hair) touching the mic

i didnt like the retainer at the arch so i cut it off however now its not all that cozy - perhaps i'll change to a bigger vault.

this is as yet not adjusted yet so i'll attempt it for a couple of more days.. generally speaking i'm glad

one inquiry: does the bundle accompanies the programming link?

here's to you

Great begin, yet you certainly require some tweaking which I am sure will deal with your issues. It would be ideal if you keep notes and examine them with your audi. To the extent hair commotion, that is something that couldn't be sorted for me unless I needed to lose other needed sounds. In spite of the fact that, I am never mindful of it aside from when I initially place them in or unless I consider it which is extremely uncommon.

I excessively wrongly cut off my reception apparatus on my NHS aids....they would not remain in by any means!

To the extent the vaults; do you mean the silicone tips? Is it accurate to say that they resemble a hard clear plastic? At some point one month from now Phonak is turning out with new clear tips which are apparently better than the ones they have out at this point. Advise your audi you need to trial them before you settle on any choices.

Programming link? Probably not. Why might you require it?

Confused Originally Posted by Jay

Much obliged to all of you for your precious commitments. My significant other and children have been after me for a considerable length of time to get new HA's. Four years back I got some Siemen's Music Pros. I never wore them. They simply made the murmurs louder. What's more, they were awkward. I simply had my listening ability tried again at Hearex...routed to them through my significant other's restorative arrangement, as Neilk. I disclosed to them I needed to consider Phonak, on the grounds that my companion adores his Micro-Elivas and due to the terrible experience I had with Siemen's. They prescribed the Audeo Yes V's or the Sieman's Pure 500's, whether I needed to spare a some cash. I think I'd have regret purchasing Siemen's once more.

Do you think the Audeo Yes IX's (instead of the V's) would give increased the value of the cash for somebody with my listening ability misfortune?

Again thank all of you for your remarks. They are genuinely valued. Everything on the net is by all accounts composed with an inclination.

I ask why so huge numbers of us have purchased helps before that we didn't care for AND paid a little fortune for just to sit in a drawer? Ideally, with the information that we are picking up from this discussion, it will be quite recently that - in the past!!!!

Neilk and I both attempted the Pure 700's and both abhorred them. Fantine began a string on them here: http://www.hearingaidforums.com/show...highlight=Pure I additionally trialed another match of Siemen's after that and I couldn't last over a day with them. It really is ideal MarvinMartian is taking a break from the discussion until his ENT appt end May........you would get an earful of his feeling on Siemens

Neilk and I both now have the YES IX's and both love them....along with numerous! My audiogram is near yours yet there are different things to consider.

I for one would contrast the YES V with the IX. On the off chance that you take a gander at their site, you can do an examination on what the distinctions are: http://www.phonak.com/customer/produ...v_features.htm

Good fortunes Jay!

chuan ok folks..

i've worn it since yesterday.. so far its great. for a first fit.

here are my notes:

great:

no clamor from AC in my home.

no wind clamor.

no criticism unless i glass my hands over the HAs.

i could hear my children clearer

more mindful of beeps and so forth

no unnatural sounding foundation commotion

not all that great:

couldnt appreciate delicate discourse (both in pack and in room) - possibly my high freq misfortune

a touch of commotion from my hair (i have mid length hair) touching the mic

i didnt like the retainer at the arch so i cut it off yet now its not all that cozy - perhaps i'll change to a bigger vault.

this is as yet not calibrated yet so i'll attempt it for a couple of more days.. in general i'm glad

one inquiry: does the bundle accompanies the programming link?

here's to you

Jay Originally Posted by Neilk

Chuan, welcome to the upbeat group of YES clients

Much obliged to all of you for your significant commitments. My significant other and children have been after me for quite a long time to get new HA's. Four years prior I got some Siemen's Music Pros. I never wore them. They simply made the mutters louder. What's more, they were awkward. I simply had my listening ability tried again at Hearex...routed to them through my significant other's therapeutic arrangement, as Neilk. I disclosed to them I needed to consider Phonak, in light of the fact that my companion cherishes his Micro-Elivas and in light of the terrible experience I had with Siemen's. They prescribed the Audeo Yes V's or the Sieman's Pure 500's, whether I needed to spare a some cash. I think I'd have regret purchasing Siemen's once more.

Do you think the Audeo Yes IX's (instead of the V's) would give enhanced the cash for somebody with my listening ability misfortune?

Again thank all of you for your remarks. They are genuinely valued. Everything on the net is by all accounts composed with a predisposition.

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750 db L 25, R 30

1000 db L 40, R 40

1500 db L 50, R 65

2000 db L 60, R 60

3000 db L 55, R 55

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Confused Originally Posted by chuan

i do get free one year's supply of batteries tho.

Check UK sites here and we not just get free batteries for the life of the HA, additionally free administration !!!! Is it just in England?

Chuan, attempt to get the above or get the cost down on the off chance that you can.

FYI, I know somebody who is adjusting his audi's home PC as a byproduct of free batteries, overhauling and he got an immense lessening in cost.

On the off chance that anybody perusing this has aptitudes that they think their audi may need, it truly merits attempting to do a bit of bargaining.

chuan Originally Posted by Neilk

Chuan, welcome to the cheerful group of YES clients

much obliged Neilk . i will be seeing the audi today

cajabu wow this string is an incredible perused, packed with valuable information notwithstanding for those of us wearing distinctive ha's. on account of all participants....gosh the YES sounds like a remarkable ha, all the best and high fives to all who have discovered hearing nirvana with them!

Neilk Chuan, welcome to the cheerful group of YES clients

chuan i'd jump at the chance to report back on my experience this evening with the audi. i attempted the YES V, and it sounded such a great amount of superior to the others. better in the feeling of being more characteristic sounding. the setting he utilized was first fit, with negligible or no alterations made. i am extremely awed. i will settle on a ultimate choice tomorrow. I'm paying significantly more than web costs, however then i think its justified, despite all the trouble for his administrations and consideration. i do get free one year's supply of batteries tho.

i'm content with the sound of my own voice, which was an issue with alternate models. trust this helps anybody settling on their decisions.

cheers !

Confused Originally Posted by hippeaux

While I may not utilize the myPilot throughout the day, consistently, I do utilize it every now and again enough to make it beneficial. Now and again I'm in a situation that may trigger the autoprogram to change works various circumstances, or I can adjust the volume for both HAs, either all the while or independently. What's more, the Zoom control can't be denied in its handiness.

I am utilizing the Phonak Audeo YES IX.

I absolutely agree.....I can't live without mine! Today I was in an extremely loud bistro and couldn't hear my companions talking and also I could when I changed to the discourse in clamor program. I likewise give a lift to the volume in specific circumstances and utilize the music program as well - for music in the auto, as well as for mild-mannered individuals it is awesome (contingent upon circumstance). I do the greater part of this from the protection of my purse

The other purpose behind utilizing it is that is the means by which our guides "take in" our inclinations.

Having said this, I do know a techy who does not utilize his by any stretch of the imagination! Neilk.....are you perusing this?

hippeaux Originally Posted by cybersleuth58

I'm thinking about whether the MyPilpot merits having. I ordered the iCom however it's put in a raincheck for the present moment. As I've said in another post, I am a tech addict, a genuine contraption darling. Its show is forceful pretty, yet it doesn't appear to be all that valuable. What do other individuals think? My audi says she hasn't sold one yet. I was searching for motivation to get it, however attempt as I may, I can't legitimize it.

While I may not utilize the myPilot throughout the day, consistently, I do utilize it every now and again enough to make it beneficial. Some of the time I'm in a domain that may trigger the autoprogram to change works numerous circumstances, or I can adjust the volume for both HAs, either all the while or exclusively. What's more, the Zoom control can't be denied in its handiness.

I am utilizing the Phonak Audeo YES IX.

joesc Originally Posted by cybersleuth58

I'm thinking about whether the MyPilpot merits having. I ordered the iCom yet it's delay purchased at this moment. As I've said in another post, I am a tech addict, a genuine device darling. Its show is strong pretty, however it doesn't appear to be all that valuable. What do other individuals think? My audi says she hasn't sold one yet. I was searching for motivation to get it, however attempt as I may, I can't legitimize it.

I too am a tech addict and have a myPilot that I scarcely utilize. Fortunately it accompanied my HA buy. However, I have an Exelia with program and volume catches on the guide, not an Audeo Yes which I comprehend doesn't have those things. Be that as it may, most circumstances, I'm in the programmed program in any case, so if the programmed program works for you, I'd say you needn't bother with the myPilot.

cybersleuth58 I'm thinking about whether the MyPilpot merits having. I ordered the iCom however it's put in a raincheck for the present moment. As I've said in another post, I am a tech addict, a genuine device darling. Its show is strong pretty, yet it doesn't appear to be all that helpful. What do other individuals think? My audi says she hasn't sold one yet. I was searching for motivation to get it, yet attempt as I may, I can't legitimize it.

Confused Originally Posted by Neilk

Hahahahahahahaha ... go ahead ... you're a lady ... you know how spouses are

BUT...........I am a lady with super hearing......... like a bionic being

Negligible mortals are passing up a major opportunity!

Neilk Originally Posted by Confused

Get her a couple of bluetooth portable amplifiers so she will perceive what she is missing :- )

Hahahahahahahaha ... go ahead ... you're a lady ... you know how spouses are

Confused Originally Posted by Neilk

Well .. looks great. Much obliged for the exploration as well. Presently, on the off chance that I can just talk my better half into another 60 bucks

Get her a couple of bluetooth portable amplifiers so she will perceive what she is missing :- )

Neilk Originally Posted by Confused

Approve kid with toys , we were discussing this: http://www.phonak.com/purchaser/produ...ransmitter.htm

So....I thought I would look into the cost for all of us:http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=163964

More information: http://global.mobileaction.com/item/Voiis_stereo.jsp

Survey: http://reviews.cnet.com/wireless a...- 32571549.html

Well .. looks great. A debt of gratitude is in order for the exploration as well. Presently, on the off chance that I can just talk my better half into another 60 bucks

jbobp Originally Posted by Confused

Affirm kid with toys , we were discussing this: http://www.phonak.com/customer/produ...ransmitter.htm

So....I thought I would look into the cost for all of us:http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=163964

More data: http://global.mobileaction.com/item/Voiis_stereo.jsp

Audit: http://reviews.cnet.com/wireless a...- 32571549.html

Fascinating, it seems like Phonak is offering the Voiis as their own particular item, first time I have seen that portal. A debt of gratitude is in order for the connection. Blackberry and Motorola likewise make Bluetooth gateways.http://tinyurl.com/dgwovhhttp://tinyurl.com/c8r4sm

Confused Originally Posted by Neilk

Presently the other one, blue-tooth for the TV sounds extremely intriguing ... despite the fact that I'd be somewhat perplexed of the conceivable cost.

Approve kid with toys , we were discussing this: http://www.phonak.com/purchaser/produ...ransmitter.htm

So....I thought I would look into the cost for all of us:http://www.expansys-usa.com/p.aspx?i=163964

More data: http://global.mobileaction.com/item/Voiis_stereo.jsp

Audit: http://reviews.cnet.com/PDA a...- 32571549.html

blabbe Hello,

About the programmed association, It is difficult to have a re-association when you are outside the scope of region.

For the changes, I need an arrangement that will kill the mics when th BT is on, on the grounds that the boisterous condition when I am driving.

According to an answer I got from this discussion, it's give the idea that it is feasible for my audi to turn them off when my BT is on. It is a basic programming config, apparently.... One week from now I have an arrangement and I will request that he make this set up.

I will update you as often as possible about the outcomes.

Benoit.

Initially Posted by Confused

Incredible news to hear a first time client so cheerful!

You say your cell works exceptionally well with your iCom. When you leave range and returned once more, do you get a programmed association? What are the changes that should be finished?

Glad hearing!

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

(gigantic exhalation of breath) Now he lets me know...

Apologies, ought to have answered sooner. I'm not setting any pennies aside right now either.

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

Obviously ... after I get mine close by. Wouldn't have any desire to botch up a decent arrangement before finishing it. In any case, an expression of caution ... Try not to hold yer breath

(colossal exhalation of breath) Now he lets me know...

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

On the off chance that you discover a hotspot for around a hundred bucks or thereabouts, you better let me know, explorer...

Obviously ... after I get mine close by. Wouldn't have any desire to foul up a decent arrangement before finishing it. However, an expression of caution ... Try not to hold yer breath

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

I would think so excessively ... what's more, haven't asked her yet, so don't know ... be that as it may, I could see her not having any desire to. I believe she's truly great .. be that as it may, I don't think she enjoys a customer being more astute than her I got the program, give me my settings ... what's more, I may astound her. On the off chance that I could just get my hands on the PC associations for not as much as a hundred bucks ...

On the off chance that you discover a hotspot for around a hundred bucks or somewhere in the vicinity, you better let me know, traveler...

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

I got my iFPG information yesterday. Didn't know 2.4 was out as of now however. Should perceive what refreshes there are. Concerning 'confidentiality'... those are your medicinal records. By law she is required to demonstrate them to you and outfit duplicates if asked for, I accept.

I would think so excessively ... furthermore, haven't asked her yet, so don't know ... be that as it may, I could see her not having any desire to. I believe she's truly great .. be that as it may, I don't think she enjoys a customer being more brilliant than her I got the program, give me my settings ... also, I may shock her. On the off chance that I could just get my hands on the PC associations for not as much as a hundred bucks ...

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

That is an intense one as I never observed what she set things at nor thought to inquire. I don't have any arrangements set to see her, and my timetable is very full the following couple of weeks. Be that as it may, I just introduced the refreshed form of iPFG, rendition 2.4, on my PC and should give her a push to refresh her framework so I can get in and have her refresh the firmware in my guides and myPilot and iCom. I don't perceive any contrast between the 2.3 and 2.4 forms similar to alternatives to choose. Be that as it may, being a PC addict/master, having the most recent most noteworthy firmware for electronic gadgets is foremost to me. Maybe while at it, I can bring a USB stick and request that her Export my settings/profile for me onto my stick so I can bring it home and view it in my own program. In the event that she'll do that ... I can envision her expression it's "private", apprehensive she'd lose a customer on the off chance that she gave me my data

I got my iFPG data yesterday. Didn't know 2.4 was out as of now however. Should perceive what refreshes there are. With respect to 'confidentiality'... those are your restorative records. By law she is required to indicate them to you and outfit duplicates if asked for, I accept.

Neilk Originally Posted by nc2kids

@Neilk, I am as of now trialing the Naida V UP (for right ear) for seven days as the demo unit for Audeo YES IX is not yet accessible until end of April. So while sitting tight for the YES demo unit, I chose to trial Naida V UP so I can encounter the elements like both models uniquely the Sound Recover.

Since both our correct ear hearing misfortune degree is practically the same, may I know how your audi modified the sound recuperate highlights? What frequencies were incorporated by your audi in the sound recoup initiation? How viable and valuable was the sound recoup in your correct ear hearing misfortune? My audi actuated the 2k frequencies for the sound recoup anyway, I don't know whether the other higher frequencies (i.e. 4k, 6k, 8k) were or can be incorporated into the sound recoup. I need to affirm this on my following visit.

I trust you can share your own experieince with the sound recoup as I am truly inclining toward getting the Audeo YES in the event that it will give a similar execution like the Naida V UP I am as of now trialing on my second day.

Much appreciated ahead of time.

That is an intense one as I never observed what she set things at nor thought to inquire. I don't have any arrangements set to see her, and my timetable is very full the following couple of weeks. Nonetheless, I just introduced the refreshed rendition of iPFG, variant 2.4, on my PC and should give her a push to refresh her framework so I can get in and have her refresh the firmware in my guides and myPilot and iCom. I don't perceive any distinction between the 2.3 and 2.4 forms similar to choices to choose. Be that as it may, being a PC addict/master, having the most recent most prominent firmware for electronic gadgets is fundamental to me. Maybe while at it, I can bring a USB stick and request that her Export my settings/profile for me onto my stick so I can bring it home and view it in my own particular program. On the off chance that she'll do that ... I can envision her adage it's "classified", anxious she'd lose a customer in the event that she gave me my data

hippeaux Originally Posted by Rekud

first time utilizing any sort of HA. The great is I just need to have one for my left year because of the reality when I was more youthful I had 3 operations on it to expel a growth along the divider ideal by the ear drum. I never thought to approach to get my outcomes for the diverse frequencies, however the audi is stating in the vicinity of 40 and 60.

At any rate, this is my first day with the YES III. Everything is by all accounts another involvement with sound. I can keep the television low in volume and still comprehend what they are stating, entirely cool. In any case, the main issue I am having is with the wind. Being outside, the HA is getting the surging of the wind and improving that sound. Perusing further on the models, it appears the two models over mine have a wind redirection?

Has any other individual contrasted the III with the following two models above and not have an issue with the wind?

While I haven't attempted the III, Iam right now utilizing the IX show. Wind is not an issue.

Happy you're getting a charge out of the Audeo Yes generally.

Rekud 1st time utilizing any sort of HA. The great is I just need to have one for my left year because of the reality when I was more youthful I had 3 operations on it to expel a growth along the divider ideal alongside the ear drum. I never thought to approach to get my outcomes for the distinctive frequencies, yet the audi is stating in the vicinity of 40 and 60.

At any rate, this is my first day with the YES III. Everything is by all accounts another involvement with sound. I can keep the television low in volume and still comprehend what they are stating, quite cool. In any case, the main issue I am having is with the wind. Being outside, the HA is getting the hurrying of the wind and improving that sound. Perusing further on the models, it appears the two models over mine have a wind diversion?

Has any other person contrasted the III with the following two models above and not have an issue with the wind?

nc2kids Originally Posted by Neilk

Really, these are my third arrangement of helps in the course of the last 7-8 years. fourth on the off chance that you number the 2 week trial of the Pure's before these. Also, YES, they are the most great of all.

@Neilk, I am at present trialing the Naida V UP (for right ear) for seven days as the demo unit for Audeo YES IX is not yet accessible until end of April. So while sitting tight for the YES demo unit, I chose to trial Naida V UP so I can encounter the elements like both models exceptionally the Sound Recover.

Since both our correct ear hearing misfortune degree is practically the same, may I know how your audi modified the sound recuperate highlights? What frequencies were incorporated by your audi in the sound recuperate enactment? How powerful and advantageous was the sound recoup in your correct ear hearing misfortune? My audi initiated the 2k frequencies for the sound recoup anyway, I don't know whether the other higher frequencies (i.e. 4k, 6k, 8k) were or can be incorporated into the sound recuperate. I need to affirm this on my following visit.

I trust you can share your own experieince with the sound recuperate as I am truly inclining toward getting the Audeo YES on the off chance that it will give a similar execution like the Naida V UP I am right now trialing on my second day.

Much obliged ahead of time.

Neilk Originally Posted by blabbe

Hi Neilk,

I am on a trial of the Audeo Yes V for about the most recent two months.

It is my firt involvement with HA, and I am verry glad of this experience.

I am utilizing the Icom interface for wireless utilization, and it works verry well.

A few changes must be done, however it is alright.

Generally speaking, I can state that these HA are verry confortable and the sound is clear and not a sort of mechanical voice.

Thus, I am certain you will make the most of your Audeo Yes IX !

Really, these are my third arrangement of helps in the course of the last 7-8 years. fourth on the off chance that you tally the 2 week trial of the Pure's before these. What's more, YES, they are the most noteworthy of all.

Confused Originally Posted by blabbe

Hi Neilk,

I am on a trial of the Audeo Yes V for about the most recent two months.

It is my firt involvement with HA, and I am verry upbeat of this experience.

I am utilizing the Icom interface for PDA utilization, and it works verry well.

A few changes must be done, however it is alright.

By and large, I can state that these HA are verry confortable and the sound is clear and not a sort of mechanical voice.

In this way, I am certain you will make the most of your Audeo Yes IX !

Awesome news to hear a first time client so upbeat!

You say your cell works extremely well with your iCom. When you leave range and returned once more, do you get a programmed association? What are the alterations that should be finished?

Upbeat hearing!

blabbe Hello Neilk,

I am on a trial of the Audeo Yes V for about the most recent two months.

It is my firt involvement with HA, and I am verry glad of this experience.

I am utilizing the Icom interface for mobile phone utilization, and it works verry well.

A few changes must be done, however it is alright.

In general, I can state that these HA are verry confortable and the sound is clear and not a sort of mechanical voice.

Along these lines, I am certain you will make the most of your Audeo Yes IX !

gypsi Thanks for that data, Hippeaux!

hippeaux Originally Posted by gypsi

Hello,

I'm thinking about attempting the Phonak Naida V or Phonak Audeo Yes IX. Does anybody know whether the Audeos have the alternative of volume/program controls appropriate on the listening device? I don't know I could get used to keeping track of the remote!

The Audeo YES has no locally available/manual controls. The Naida has a program catch and computerized volume control.

gypsi Hi,

I'm thinking about attempting the Phonak Naida V or Phonak Audeo Yes IX. Does anybody know whether the Audeos have the alternative of volume/program controls ideal on the amplifier? I don't know I could get used to keeping track of the remote!

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

I'd readily test one of those TV transmitters however

Heh, I hear you. The real point I despise about what I read about it, however, is that the manual states you should incapacitate Bluetooth from different sources, for example, your phone.

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

Yes, you're ideal about the CnT being exclusively for mobile phones - moreover, the manual demonstrates the client holding it in comparative mold to a typical telephone client. I envision it can be held like a walkie-talkie however.

The main thing I like about the reality battery life would be so any longer. I'm staying with my iCom.

That is correct, the client manual says it must be inside 9" of your mouth and shows it being held in typical telephone mold, sort of a restricting component. Obviously the iCom staying nearby your neck can be viewed as an agony by some also ... I would think it such aside from that it works so awesome. Which raises another point about the CnT ... it is NOT a hands free arrangement ... something that is required in a few states, including my California, when driving. Also, the CnT itself, cut onto the telephone would no doubt meddle with any PDA holsters/cases right now accessible and being used. Apologies, Phonak ... yet, the more I take a gander at this CnT gadget, the more it would appear that a foolish and outlined idea.

I'd readily test one of those TV transmitters however

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

It looks sort of flawless, however ... it is just for mobile phones, while the iCom itself can be utilized with cell or landline as long as the telephone underpins blue-tooth, or a gadget to make the telephone blue-tooth perfect, (for example, the Jabra A7010). For this one I'll stay with the iCom and Jabra. Presently the other one, blue-tooth for the TV sounds extremely fascinating ... despite the fact that I'd be somewhat anxious of the conceivable cost.

Be that as it may, a debt of gratitude is in order for the news Confused. Continue keeping us educated of any news and redesigns you may discover at the Phonak site

Yes, you're ideal about the CnT being exclusively for PDAs - besides, the manual demonstrates the client holding it in comparable design to a typical telephone client. I envision it can be held like a walkie-talkie however.

The main thing I like about the reality battery life would be so any longer. I'm staying with my iCom.

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

I saw that before the end of last night that they had refreshed the site.

It would seem that the second connection you give, to the Click'n'Talk, is a gadget that attachments specifically into your PDA and acts practically like the iCom. Also, my telephone is totally perfect and suggested. Goodness, no doubt... So are my HAs. heh.

It at first become flushed appears to utilize the telephone's battery, which is astounding when a telephone, similar to my SonyEricsson has a 10-hour talktime. Yet, despite everything it has a 10-inch/25-cm breaking point to go however, it would appear that. hrmm.

It looks sort of slick, yet ... it is just for mobile phones, though the iCom itself can be utilized with cell or landline as long as the telephone bolsters blue-tooth, or a gadget to make the telephone blue-tooth good, (for example, the Jabra A7010). For this one I'll stay with the iCom and Jabra. Presently the other one, blue-tooth for the TV sounds exceptionally fascinating ... in spite of the fact that I'd be somewhat perplexed of the conceivable cost.

However, a debt of gratitude is in order for the news Confused. Continue keeping us educated of any news and updates you may discover at the Phonak site

hippeaux Originally Posted by Confused

Has anybody taken a gander at the Phonak site as of late? Perhaps I simply have not looked in quite a while, but rather I have seen some new contraptions. What's more, we know there may be more to come after the AAA. I can't open the greater part of the connections since PC is misbehaving, however take a gander at these:http://www.phonak.com/purchaser/produ...ransmitter.htmhttp://www.phonak.com/buyer/produ...ng_started.htm

I saw that toward the end of last night that they had refreshed the site.

It would appear that the second connection you give, to the Click'n'Talk, is a gadget that fittings specifically into your phone and acts practically like the iCom. What's more, my telephone is totally perfect and suggested. Gracious, no doubt... So are my HAs. heh.

It at first become flushed appears to utilize the telephone's battery, which is brilliant when a telephone, similar to my SonyEricsson has a 10-hour talktime. However, regardless it has a 10-inch/25-cm point of confinement to go however, it would appear that. hrmm.

Confused Has anybody taken a gander at the Phonak site as of late? Possibly I simply have not looked in quite a while, but rather I have seen some new devices. Also, we know there may be more to come after the AAA. I can't open the greater part of the connections since PC is misbehaving, however take a gander at these:http://www.phonak.com/buyer/produ...ransmitter.htmhttp://www.phonak.com/purchaser/produ...ng_started.htm

Confused Unfortunately my audi did not arrange the myPilot or iCom for me so I have been baffled with no volume control

A few people don't utilize their myPilot by any stretch of the imagination. I for one couldn't live without it. Additionally, the YES's are self adapting, yet you need to show them, and for that you require the myPilot. I utilize mine continually. Before all else I didn't perceive how the diverse projects would profit me, however in time, I can hear such a great amount of better by changing the program. For example, infrequently I think that its troublesome hearing the auto radio. I generally thought I should utilize the "commotion" program, yet the "music" one works better for me.

Likewise, I was fitted with Phonak's shut vaults and I observe them to be very awkward and hard to situate accurately. I think about how much change I could expect with a custom shell.

Do you have any input? When you say 'shut arches' is there a gap in the vaults? Is it made of a reasonable hard plastic?

I have heard that Phonak are turning out with another, little custom shell toward the beginning of May, so you might need to hold off until at that point. Then, converse with your audi about your concern.

QUESTION: Can the custom shell be evacuated for washing with cleanser and water?

No. Contingent upon the material, you will be given something like isopropyl to clean them. I wipe mine with a spotless dry material consistently as well, in spite of the fact that I never have wax.

how sensitive is this recipient that I'm putting in my ear channel? Appears to me I'm managing two apparatuses that have support possibilities instead of the BTE independent from anyone else.

You should be gentle....with all aspects of your guide. As you most likely are aware, there are wax tips which ensure the recipient and which needs cleaning and evolving. You have attempted BTE without a collector in the ear - did you like them? I discover no correlation.

Furthermore, that thin tube is connected specifically to both parts making cleaning practically outlandish from what I can tell.

You don't spotless the tube on these, and they are sensitive, so you should not be no picnic for them. After a specific measure of time, you should purchase substitutes for them. Address your audi for the charges.

As to execution, I was seeking after the take your breath away experience Neilk had, yet it didn't appear for me

Your audi needs to change a few settings. In the end, they ought to be great

Sorry Pam, I recently saw that we didn't hit you up in time for your arrangement, so a considerable measure of these inquiries would have as of now be replied by your audi.

How did your arrangement go????

xbulder Originally Posted by MsPam

Hello there,

Expectation I'm not off point now, but rather I would love input on my perceptions in the event that you have any. I began trialing my YES IX HI two weeks prior. Shockingly my audi did not arrange the myPilot or iCom for me so I have been disappointed with no volume control - a major issue for me with every one of the models I have trialed. I am getting the myPilot today so I'm trusting that will help with some of my issues.

Likewise, I was fitted with Phonak's shut arches and I observe them to be very awkward and hard to situate effectively. I think about how much change I could expect with a custom shell. QUESTION: Can the custom shell be expelled for washing with cleanser and water? That conveys me to more issues - how fragile is this recipient that I'm putting in my ear channel? Appears to me I'm managing two apparatuses that have upkeep possibilities rather than the BTE independent from anyone else. What's more, that thin tube is joined specifically to both parts making cleaning practically incomprehensible from what I can tell.

As to execution, I was seeking after the take your breath away experience Neilk had, however it didn't appear for me, in any event not yet. Possibly it needs to do with not having the myPilot. I will state they appear to have the shapest sound of the considerable number of models I have trialed up until this point and possibly I simply require more modifications. I have observed them to be very unsuitable dealing with street commotion. They appear to enhance the street commotion when I need to tune in to the radio, as they don't recognize what to do. At that point there are times when the correct HI just close down and I feel impeded.

I have an arrangement this evening with my audi so I'm seeking after change with modifications. All of you are so useful I needed to post and check whether you have any remarks. Much obliged to you for being here!

Pam

would you be able to please survey the speed 24? might you be able to think about all the instrument U have trialed?

MsPam Hi,

Expectation I'm not off theme now, but rather I would love criticism on my perceptions on the off chance that you have any. I began trialing my YES IX HI two weeks back. Lamentably my audi did not arrange the myPilot or iCom for me so I have been disappointed with no volume control - a major issue for me with every one of the models I have trialed. I am getting the myPilot today so I'm trusting that will help with some of my issues.

Likewise, I was fitted with Phonak's shut arches and I observe them to be very awkward and hard to situate accurately. I think about how much change I could expect with a custom shell. QUESTION: Can the custom shell be expelled for washing with cleanser and water? That conveys me to more issues - how sensitive is this recipient that I'm putting in my ear trench? Appears to me I'm managing two apparatuses that have upkeep possibilities rather than the BTE without anyone else. Furthermore, that thin tube is joined specifically to both parts making cleaning practically inconceivable from what I can tell.

As to execution, I was seeking after the take your breath away experience Neilk had, however it didn't appear for me, at any rate not yet. Possibly it needs to do with not having the myPilot. I will state they appear to have the shapest sound of the considerable number of models I have trialed up until this point and possibly I simply require more changes. I have observed them to be very unsuitable dealing with street commotion. They appear to intensify the street clamor when I need to tune in to the radio, as they don't realize what to do. At that point there are times when the correct HI just close down and I feel impeded.

I have an arrangement this evening with my audi so I'm seeking after change with modifications. All of you are so useful I needed to post and check whether you have any remarks. Much thanks to you for being here!

Pam

Confused Originally Posted by Neilk

Alright, befuddled, ya got me When I had the iCom ON, and it was recently matched to the Motorola cell, my current being used telephone .. what's more, gone out, it lost association. When I returned, it didn't get the association again until the point that I tapped the catch on the iCom. I don't think I've ever left the iCom ON when not wearing the phone, or left them together. I don't wear the telephone when utilizing the iCom on end of the week mornings while playing the PS3 and utilizing it to hear the TV so as not to bother the spouse with my blasts, but rather have it in the same or next room and it keeps up the association.

I think about how frequently out of ten that it will work that way. In the event that more than 3, it must be it is possible that me or my iCom.

Neilk OK, confounded, ya got me When I had the iCom ON, and it was quite recently matched to the Motorola cell, my current being used telephone .. what's more, gone out, it lost association. When I returned, it didn't get the association again until the point that I tapped the catch on the iCom. I don't think I've ever left the iCom ON when not wearing the phone, or left them together. I don't wear the telephone when utilizing the iCom on end of the week mornings while playing the PS3 and utilizing it to hear the TV so as not to bother the spouse with my blasts, but rather have it in the same or next room and it keeps up the association.

Neilk Originally Posted by Confused

Could be.... One method for ensuring:

Is it accurate to say that anyone is associating with their iCom with definitely no issues???

Provided that this is true, what portable would you say you are utilizing? What USB connector? What mp3 player? and so forth.

Well ... simply posted an answer and don't see it??? Thus, if this transforms into a twofold post, excuse me

My LG VX8300, my organization's Motorola W385 ... both around 2-3 year old mobile phones. My Jabra likewise ... when I leave it, I begin getting static when I get sufficiently far over my office, around corners, and so forth. At that point I simply get static just ... in any case, when I get back in extend, the calls have constantly still been there, the guest sitting tight for me.

Alright ... there was no page 18 when I looked and here I am on it twice now ... dohhhh

Confused Originally Posted by hippeaux

Perhaps that specific iCom is awful? I'll check mine later.

Could be.... One method for ensuring:

Is it accurate to say that anyone is associating with their iCom with definitely no issues???

Assuming this is the case, what versatile would you say you are utilizing? What USB connector? What mp3 player? and so forth.

hippeaux Originally Posted by Confused

I will be wearing my deerstalker and my amplifying glass is close by!

I have attempted one old and one new Nokia cell with bluetooth and furthermore a connector for my PC. Every one of the 3 won't generally reconnect in the wake of being out of range. Now and then it will associate while tapping the iCom as recommended, and different circumstances not.....no reasonable explanation as far as anyone is concerned. I should let it out truly is not helpful generally times. In a couple of days I will try out a mp3 to perceive what happens.

Perhaps that specific iCom is awful? I'll check mine later.

Confused Originally Posted by Neilk

Look painstakingly however and simply ensure that the one you purchase has blue-tooth. More seasoned models may not, and unquestionably you'll discover those discounted modest ... or, on the other hand less expensive.

I will be wearing my deerstalker and my amplifying glass is nearby!

I have attempted one old and one new Nokia cell with bluetooth and furthermore a connector for my PC. Each of the 3 won't generally reconnect in the wake of being out of range. Here and there it will associate while tapping the iCom as proposed, and different circumstances not.....no justifiable purpose as far as anyone is concerned. I should let it out truly is not helpful generally times. In a couple of days I will try out a mp3 to perceive what happens.

Neilk Originally Posted by Confused

I have been taking a gander at Samsung! I will look at them further...thanks

Look deliberately however and simply ensure that the one you purchase has blue-tooth. More seasoned models may not, and clearly you'll discover those on special shoddy ... or, on the other hand less expensive.

Confused Originally Posted by joesc

I'd prescribe getting a Samsung MP3 player, that has bluetooth inherent. That way you won't have to escape extend, it'll run with you. I have a Samsung P2 with worked in bluetoot, and it's extraordinary. Be that as it may, I think the greater part of Samsung's mp3 players have bluetooth implicit.

I have been taking a gander at Samsung! I will look at them further...thanks

joesc Originally Posted by Confused

I should concede, I am infatuated with hearing music 'inside my head'!!! I simply wish the range was better since cleaning would be a lot more charming

I'd prescribe getting a Samsung MP3 player, that has bluetooth implicit. That way you won't have to escape extend, it'll run with you. I have a Samsung P2 with worked in bluetoot, and it's awesome. However, I think the majority of Samsung's mp3 players have bluetooth inherent.

Confused Originally Posted by hippeaux

I don't review if this was prompted yet or not, so I'll hazard repitition...

Check the Bluetooth setup and ensure you have the "Naturally reconnect Bluetooth" setting empowered.

Additionally, with my Sony K850i, I experienced consistent difficulty with it dropping my Bluetooth headsets (and trust me, I attempted numerous!). Everything I could do was acknowledge it. A semi-speedy/simple intends to reconnect was to hit the Call/Answer catch, as if tolerating a call, and it would reconnect.

Luckily, my iCom works and plays well with my Sony mobile phone. I'm a glad camper at this point.

Reiteration is fine by me! Bluetooth setup on versatile and connector does not have 'auto reconnect'. Tomorrow, I am getting a one year old versatile to check whether I have better luckiness.

I am doing the third "entire charge and release cycle" of iCom battery and have an additional 2 hours to go, so can't test your semi-speedy reconnect. In the event that that works, I will be content with that. Anything is superior to anything killing and playing Judas on once more.

I should concede, I am infatuated with hearing music 'inside my head'!!! I simply wish the range was better since cleaning would be a great deal more agreeable

hippeaux Originally Posted by Confused

It might be ideal in the event that I recalled this after I read it:

iCom client control expresses: "Your iCom underpins Bluetooth operations up to a scope of 10m." Soooo, purchasing a connector over that range won't work at any rate.

They additionally say when bluetooth is removed from range and after that moved once again into extend "it might continue gushing to your HI. This relies on upon the gadget." So individuals you were correct, it most likely is my cell despite the fact that it has additionally happened a couple of times with my new connector

I don't review if this was prompted yet or not, so I'll hazard repitition...

Check the Bluetooth setup and ensure you have the "Consequently reconnect Bluetooth" setting empowered.

Likewise, with my Sony K850i, I experienced consistent difficulty with it dropping my Bluetooth headsets (and trust me, I attempted numerous!). Whatever I could do was acknowledge it. A semi-speedy/simple intends to reconnect was to hit the Call/Answer catch, as if tolerating a call, and it would reconnect.

Luckily, my iCom works and plays well with my Sony mobile phone. I'm a cheerful camper at this point.

Confused It would help on the off chance that I recalled this after I read it:

iCom client manage states: "Your iCom bolsters Bluetooth operations up to a scope of 10m." Soooo, purchasing a connector over that range won't work at any rate.

They additionally say when bluetooth is removed from range and after that moved once more into extend "it could conceivably continue spilling to your HI. This relies on upon the gadget." So individuals you were correct, it most likely is my cell despite the fact that it has additionally happened a couple of times with my new connector

hippeaux Originally Posted by jay_man2

I'm with you. I think BT is over-appraised versus its genuine helpfulness.

All things considered, I don't know whether I'd go that far. I've discovered that Bluetooth, with my wireless, to be exceptionally liberating - particularly with my inabilities making it hard to hold a telephone to my head. Been utilizing Bluetooth for a couple of years now, and observe this utility to be darn pleasant.

joesc Originally Posted by Confused

Yes, I see how the iCom works, yet myPilot programs don't work if the iCom is turned on. I wasn't stating while I am on a call. Just the volume will work.

I've quite recently tried this. At the point when your iCom is combined, yet not dynamic, your myPilot ought to have the capacity to change projects and volume. Mine does. When you are on a dynamic association, the choice your myPilot will show would be your bluetooth program and you'll just have the capacity to change volume. The myPilot demonstrates different projects when you page through utilizing the privilege and left catches, yet it doesn't appear to change the program while your on the bluetooth program. Which bodes well since you on the bluetooth program. In the event that you need to get off bluetooth, you'd hit the iCom catch to detach.

So it sounds like something's going ahead with your bluetooth association. Your association is by all accounts remaining dynamic when you trust it shouldn't be. I'd converse with your audi about this and ensure you have the most recent firmware for every one of your gadgets.

joesc Don't draw near to 10 meter run with any of my bluetooth gadgets aside from the Jabra 7010 center point. Perhaps 10 feet in case I'm fortunate, without any obstructions between the iCom and the bluetooth transmitter.

jay_man2 Originally Posted by hippeaux

That is valid, however most gadgets, including all present PDAs (I'm almost certain) and the iCom.

I'm with you. I think BT is over-appraised versus its genuine helpfulness.

hippeaux Originally Posted by jay_man2

I however so as well, and posted to such an extent, the googled up somewhere in the range of 250 foot BT connectors, and erased my post. Ok, the pace of innovation.

That is valid, however most gadgets, including all present mobile phones (I'm almost certain) and the iCom.

jay_man2 Originally Posted by hippeaux

The Bluetooth determination, if memory serves, requires a 10 meter/33 foot run, worst case scenario. Furthermore, truly, the nearer you get to the maximum range, the quality will quite often debase. Particularly if there are obstructions between you andd the source.

I however so as well, and posted to such an extent, at that point googled up somewhere in the range of 250 foot BT connectors, and erased my post. Ok, the pace of innovation.

hippeaux Originally Posted by Confused

I just purchased a bluetooth connector (dongle) for my PC to perceive what happens when I am out of range and afterward returned once more. No issues.

When playing music, the quality is bad; sounds like a record with a scratch on it - marginally tinny. It is a small one around 1/2". What I truly am not upbeat about is it just has a 10 mtr run! It didn't state on the bundle. At a similar cost I could have gotten one with 250 mtr run.

I didn't attempt my companions telephone yet - ideally tomorrow.

The Bluetooth detail, if memory serves, requires a 10 meter/33 foot extend, worst case scenario. What's more, truly, the nearer you get to the maximum range, the quality will quite often corrupt. Particularly if there are obstructions between you andd the source.

Confused I just purchased a bluetooth connector (dongle) for my PC to perceive what happens when I am out of range and afterward returned once more. No issues.

When playing music, the quality is bad; sounds like a record with a scratch on it - marginally tinny. It is a minor one around 1/2". What I truly am not upbeat about is it just has a 10 mtr go! It didn't state on the bundle. At a similar cost I could have gotten one with 250 mtr extend.

I didn't attempt my companions telephone yet - ideally tomorrow.

Neilk Unless you have a simple merchandise exchange there, I wouldn't purchase other Blue-tooth headsets in the event that they are only to test purposes. Ensure that the blue light on the iCom is in glimmering mode, not on relentless. In glimmering mode implies the Blue-tooth association is set up and the iCom is in standby mode sitting tight for a call. On the off chance that on relentless blue, it implies that you are in dynamic call mode and on a call. All things considered you would get additional static and lost association conditions each time you got a couple of feet away. In the event that on relentless blue and you are not on a call, simply hit the huge catch one an opportunity to remove it from dynamic and again into standby.

When I am wearing my iCom inside my shirt and my canine bounced on me, he will as often as possible hit the enormous catch and I will get those tones telling me that I've gone dynamic. I think he hears them and knows he's driving me crazy

Confused Originally Posted by hippeaux

Confounded,

What mobile phone do you have? Brand and model, on the off chance that you know it. Additionally, have you utilized other Bluetooth gadgets with the telephone some time recently? Provided that this is true, does it reconnect appropriately on the off chance that you leave scope of the telephone?

It is a Nokia...not beyond any doubt of model yet one of the better ones.

I have not attempted other Bluetooth gadgets, they were all on my 'to purchase' list in the wake of purchasing the guides, including another versatile (cell).

I will check whether I can obtain a companions for a couple of days and see what happens.

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

Confounded,

What mobile phone do you have? Brand and model, on the off chance that you know it. Likewise, have you utilized other Bluetooth gadgets with the telephone some time recently? Provided that this is true, does it reconnect legitimately on the off chance that you leave scope of the telephone?

Great inquiries.

hippeaux Confused,

What phone do you have? Brand and model, in the event that you know it. Additionally, have you utilized other Bluetooth gadgets with the telephone some time recently? Assuming this is the case, does it reconnect legitimately on the off chance that you leave scope of the telephone?

Confused Originally Posted by Neilk

Ahhhh ... so that is the thing that you implied

So ... at the point when association is lost .... is it accurate to say that you are on a call at that point? Is the blue light on blazing or relentless?

I'll need to play with mine some more and check whether having the iCom on has any effect with the myPilot. I haven't had event to attempt different projects when it's on truly as I utilize solely the auto mode.

I can't recall about the light As you most likely are aware, I wear my iCom under my garments, so I don't see the lights. I will attempt it and the myPilot tomorrow around the house and let you know.

Toward the beginning of today I couldn't turn the iCom on! Completely charged the previous evening, so I have no clue what happened. I needed to push reset and it was fine at that point. Likewise, I made my companion leave with my cell to test the range with the iCom. It lost the association again with no beep cautioning. I needed to restart my cell to get associated once more. It truly is a pain.....

DenMc Thank you for the answers...

I confess to being erroneous (by Phonak Canada) and the knowledgable individuals on this gathering. Cited from Phonak : "the Watchpilot 2 won't work with the Audeo Yes V portable hearing assistant. The main remote that will work with it is the myPilot. This is on the grounds that the guide is little and there is space for the recieving wire to furnish the remote usefulness with iCom and myPilot however not space for the reception apparatus and an enlistment curl that is required to speak with the WatchPilot 2."

The Older 'Audeo Personal Communication Assistant' will work with the WatchPilot2. They appear to be identical however less elements as with the Newer Audeo Yes.

Much obliged to you for your info.

Dennis

Neilk Originally Posted by Confused

Yes, I see how the iCom works, however myPilot programs don't work if the iCom is turned on. I wasn't stating while I am on a call. Just the volume will work.

Furthermore, yes, it beeps when association is lost, yet when I get back in run it doesn't consequently get the bluetooth association once more. Having said that, I am finding that it happens two or three times and after that about the 3 time of being out of range, it will all of a sudden work. It proved to be useful yesterday: when I was connecting the iCom to be charged, I turned it on first to perceive what the light appeared for the battery. The blue light went ahead for bluetooth. My cell was in my satchel in my wardrobe and I clearly left it on!

Did the above bode well or are you still

Ahhhh ... so that is the thing that you implied

So ... at the point when association is lost .... is it accurate to say that you are on a call at that point? Is the blue light on blazing or enduring?

I'll need to play with mine some more and check whether having the iCom on has any effect with the myPilot. I haven't had event to attempt different projects when it's on truly as I utilize solely the auto mode.

Confused Originally Posted by Icanhearnow

One of my amplifiers had a flawless fit the other the fit was great yet not great. The last custom shape enhanced the fit by around 20% which is really great.

Enhanced by around 20%? I would anticipate that them both will be great!

If you don't mind continue working with them until the point that we would all be able to have splendidly fitting molds.

Simply recall that, they will cost us around $6,000.......

Confused Originally Posted by Neilk

Confounded ... the volume is customizable inside the programming. I even had mine turned down only a bit. Have your audi make the changes in accordance with the iCom volume and you'll truly hear a noteworthy distinction. I can't trust how uproarious and clear the stereo telephone calls are ... I can hear the telephone in excess of anyone's imagination, better than anyone might have expected my listening ability misfortune even. While the iCom is dynamic, you are on a call and the blue light is on relentless, the telephone call comes first by outline so different projects won't work. Be that as it may, if the iCom is simply in standbye mode, sitting tight for a call to come in ... blue light glimmering, at that point alternate projects do work. The blue light ought to typically be blazing unless you are quite a telephone call.

In any case, I'm not exactly understanding the losing association, you have me ... befuddled? Do you imply that you leave the mobile phone, abandon it lying on a table and go into the following room? On the off chance that I leave my office telephone/Jabra and escape its range ... I do hear the beeps disclosing to me association has been lost. Yet, once I get back in go, it consequently gets the blue-tooth association again without my doing anything.

Yes, I see how the iCom works, yet myPilot programs don't work if the iCom is turned on. I wasn't stating while I am on a call. Just the volume will work.

What's more, yes, it beeps when association is lost, yet when I get back in run it doesn't consequently get the bluetooth association once more. Having said that, I am finding that it happens several times and after that about the 3 time of being out of range, it will all of a sudden work. It proved to be useful yesterday: when I was connecting the iCom to be charged, I turned it on first to perceive what the light appeared for the battery. The blue light went ahead for bluetooth. My cell was in my tote in my storage room and I clearly left it on!

Did the above bode well or are you still

Icanhearnow Phonak Corporate is around 15 minutes from where I live. They are not only a business office but rather they make the portable hearing assistants there too. The ladies I have been managing amid my field trial is a Custom Product Manager with a PHD in Audiology. When I straightforwardly inquired as to whether there was whatever other gadget that would control the volume on my Audeo Yes IX she said No. So unless she wasn't telling every bit of relevant information then I would be truly suspect of any individual who negates her. Expectation this clears up any perplexity.

jay_man2 So who's your Co-Pilot?

Neilk OK, now we have clashing data. I feel that WatchPilot is very perfect also. In spite of the fact that I do like the usefulness of the myPilot, particularly it's lcd show. It likewise enables you to change the volume of either help freely of alternate, and also underpins the VoiceZoom ... which I would address with the WatchPilot. I realize that the KeyPilot works with it and is the essential remote, the one included with the expectation of complimentary I accept ... in the event that you can consider anything "FREE" considering what these things cost.

I've had mine fourteen days now and have had no issues with the myPilot.

Icanhearnow I asked the phonak audiologist who was responsible for my trial whether there were some other remotes that would work with the audeo yes and I was told no. The mypilot is the main remote that will at present work with the audeo yes IX. I would expect this would apply to the next two audeo yes models.

hippeaux Cool, happy to hear they'll work with the WatchPilot. Haven't had mine long, yet is by all accounts doing great. Good fortunes!

DenMc Interesting.... my audi gave me the decision between the WatchPilot2 , MyPilot,and the KeyPilot2 . My sibling has a similar HA's and he picked the KeyPilot and was given the decision of the WatchPilot2. I likewise have a companion that has the Yes V's and utilizations the WatchPilot2 and he said he very much wants the Watch over bumbling for a dandy in a pocket. Every one of the an individual decision I assume, in any event there is a decision.

Much thanks to you for your answers. I will look facilitate into the Watch being good and will post the result. Oh...yes the Watch costs more $450 - 500.

Fortunatly my expenses are covered...lucky me ( I presume)

I simply needed to know how the remotes are holding up.

Much thanks to you

Dennis

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

blunder... I'm not sure the Audeo Yes can work with the WatchPilot2... May just work with the MyPilot. Be pleasant in the event that it works with the watches.

I concur with hippeaux. The Watchpilot2 records as being for more seasoned guides, not the new Audeo YES. I would recommend checking with Phonak to decide whether it's customizing and flags to the guides would work with, be gotten by, the YES. I know my audi did not try specifying the Watchpilot as an alternative even ... also, as I trust that as it costs more than the myPilot, she would have cherished the opportunity to make a couple of more bucks on the arrangement

hippeaux Originally Posted by DenMc

Hi,

I am new to this Forum. I have been taking in an incredible arrangement from perusing posted data on this Great Forum.

I have more misfortune in my left contrasted with the privilege. Cause undetermined, even MRI didn't demonstrate any cause. I never gave rifles an incredible arrangement and when I did I had security.

I simply requested my Phonak Audeo Yes V BTE Aids on Friday. I will have a specially fitted attachment on the left, to counteract shrieking, and open on the right, I want to attempt both open to check whether the left whistles.

My Question is about the "remote" , I have (up until now) picked the Watch Pilot2 over the hand helds, individual decision, has anybody had any issues with the remotes ? The quality looks awesome, I'm quite recently inquisitive about sturdiness and execution. Any assistance would be acknowledged .

Much thanks.

Dennis

fail... I'm not sure the Audeo Yes can work with the WatchPilot2... May just work with the MyPilot. Be pleasant in the event that it works with the watches.

DenMc Hello,

I am new to this Forum. I have been taking in an extraordinary arrangement from perusing posted data on this Great Forum.

I have more misfortune in my left contrasted with the privilege. Cause undetermined, even MRI didn't demonstrate any cause. I never gave rifles an awesome arrangement and when I did I had insurance.

I simply requested my Phonak Audeo Yes V BTE Aids on Friday. I will have an exceptionally fitted attachment on the left, to forestall shrieking, and open on the right, I would like to attempt both open to check whether the left whistles.

My Question is about the "remote" , I have (up until now) picked the Watch Pilot2 over the hand helds, individual decision, has anybody had any issues with the remotes ? The quality looks awesome, I'm quite recently inquisitive about strength and execution. Any assistance would be acknowledged .

Much thanks.

Dennis

ccvickers Did you trail the standard or power reciever?

Icanhearnow I attempted the audeo yes IX. I wasn't told where in the product offering this item was. I didn't have the opportunity to attempt various adaptations of the listening device yet had the opportunity to attempt 3 distinctive ear molds 1 non-custom and two custom. I like the last custom form the best. I did quickly attempt the icom, it is about the extent of motorola startac or samsung flip telephone. Since I get not very many mobile phone calls and don't generally tune in to an IPod I selected not to do an expanded trial of the icom.

I don't think I can remark promote on the last custom shape since it isn't yet accessible and I consented to a secrecy arrangement. One of my portable amplifiers had an impeccable fit the other the fit was great however not great. The last custom shape enhanced the fit by around 20% which is entirely great.

The mypilot gives you a chance to control each portable amplifier autonomously, so in the event that you need to build the volume in the correct one and not the left one you can.

I've discovered that no portable amplifier is impeccable BUT these approached, I consider them more as wearing glasses. They're not immaculate and I don't hear everthing, but rather I can hear enough so my family doesn't whine and I can watch (and control the volume) of network program without influencing my family.

I'd be glad to answer whatever inquiries anybody has about the portable amplifiers and give my encounters.

hippeaux Originally Posted by English

Right HA is likewise marginally bring down in volume that the left so I should have that changed.

I have far to go

Have you taken a stab at utilizing the MyPilot to expand the volume in just the correct HA for the present? Hypothetically, the Audeo YES is a learning instrument, thus ought to inevitably get your inclination. Or, on the other hand maybe the correct shell isn't exactly fitted appropriately, as you suggested, and is causing your view of absence of volume.

ccvickers Thank you, ICANHEARNOW, for the superb audit! Which form of the YES did you trial? Did you have chance to attempt and look at the changed renditions?

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

Be that as it may, I'm not exactly understanding the losing association, you have me ... confounded? Do you imply that you leave the mobile phone, abandon it lying on a table and go into the following room? On the off chance that I leave my office telephone/Jabra and escape its range ... I do hear the beeps revealing to me association has been lost. Be that as it may, once I get back in go, it naturally grabs the blue-tooth association again without my doing anything.

I was simply thinking - most PDAs have a choice you need to set in the Bluetooth menu guiding the telephone to consequently reconnect. Maybe this is the issue you're having?

Neilk Originally Posted by Confused

I have specified this some time recently, yet I too have issues with the Phonak molds slipping out - them two. My audi took another impression trusting it would help, yet they are similarly as terrible. I am constantly pushing them into the point that individuals are remarking on my new unusual propensity. It is somewhat troublesome thinking of a reason since they don't know I wear helps. The finish of April Phonak will be turning out with molds produced using an alternate substance which should settle this issue. Ideally Hippeaux yours will be amended with a more extended wire. Assuming this is the case, please let us know.

Since my guides were come back with the new shape some new issues have occured. When I leave extend with the iCom, my cell loses the bluetooth association, so I need to kill the iCom and on again to re-interface. I have additionally seen that while utilizing the iCom, myPilot programs don't work - just the volume control.

I am not having the fortunes that some of you have with hearing on the telephone/cell either. The volume is far too low for me to listen.

Only a couple of things to fix....

Befuddled ... the volume is movable inside the programming. I even had mine turned down only a bit. Have your audi make the acclimations to the iCom volume and you'll truly hear a noteworthy contrast. I can't trust how boisterous and clear the stereo telephone calls are ... I can hear the telephone beyond anyone's imagination, better than anyone might have expected my listening ability misfortune even. While the iCom is dynamic, you are on a call and the blue light is on consistent, the telephone call outweighs everything else by plan so different projects won't work. Be that as it may, if the iCom is simply in standbye mode, sitting tight for a call to come in ... blue light blazing, at that point alternate projects do work. The blue light ought to ordinarily be blazing unless you are very a telephone call.

Be that as it may, I'm not exactly understanding the losing association, you have me ... confounded? Do you imply that you leave the mobile phone, abandon it lying on a table and go into the following room? In the event that I leave my office telephone/Jabra and escape its range ... I do hear the beeps revealing to me association has been lost. In any case, once I get back in go, it naturally grabs the blue-tooth association again without my doing anything.

Icanhearnow I have been included in a field trial of the audeo yes listening devices for as far back as a while and I have been to a great degree awed. Here are the things I like about the audeo yes:

1. the custom shells are exceptionally agreeable and I don't have the desire to evacuate the hearing much of the time as I did with the old portable hearing assistants. I wear the portable hearing assistants relentless for approx. 13hrs a day and have not had any solace issues.

2. With my old cic portable hearing assistants all sounds were intensified and this was to a great degree irritating and made it practically difficult to hearing in a loud domain. The audeo yes helps work to a great degree well in commotion, in truth I imagine that might be there best element.

3. By one means or another they have figured out how to overcome the "impediment issue". The custom shells have an "opening" in them that is lets sounds I can hear and air in. I never again stable like I'm talking in a drum.

4. I am a youthful semi-resigned individual who likes to peruse and I can really sit either inside or outside and perused with my portable amplifiers in feel like "I'm sitting peacefully". My old listening devices increased each and every stable and things dependably appeared to be boisterous so I would take them out.

5. The mypilot remote control works extremely well it gives you a chance to bring down the volume approx. 2db at any given moment. There is likewise an element that gives you a chance to pick where sound originates from. For instance, If somebody to my left side is conversing with me and there is a considerable measure of commotion on my correct I can advise the portable amplifiers to for the most part pickup sounds to my left side those sounds are then "sent" to my correct listening device. So it could be said both portable amplifiers are hearing what is going on to my left side.

6. The exact opposite thing is there is no criticism, genuine, I can put my hand straightforwardly finished or on top of the amplifier and if there is any input it is totally! dispensed with in around 1-2 seconds. I have had NO input when utilizing either a cordless or phone.

I not certain how I was chosen for the field think about however I'm happy I was. I had such a terrible involvement with my old amplifiers that I never thought I would attempt considerably less purchase another combine of portable amplifiers. I need to state they have hit a grand slam with this item. I have chosen to purchase the amplifiers however have not yet obtained them.

Expectation this makes a difference. I just as of late found this discussion and wished something like this existed the main time(many years back) that I got amplifiers.

hippeaux Originally Posted via airborn65

Does anybody know whether Audeo YES can be fitted with T-loop? How is the voice clearness and gathering with PDA and general land line telephone use without the Icom availability? There will be sudden circumstances when you will utilize different cellphones and land line telephone not at present combined with your Icom.

Apologies, no t-curl in the Audeo YES. Clearness in landline telephones appears to be fine - simply need to figure out how to position the telephone legitimately. (I haven't utilized the telephone much without Bluetooth.)

Neilk Originally Posted via airborn65

Does anybody know whether Audeo YES can be fitted with T-curl? How is the voice lucidity and gathering with PDA and customary land line telephone use without the Icom availability? There will be sudden circumstances when you will utilize different cellphones and land line telephone not presently combined with your Icom.

The T-curl is NOT an alternative with the Audeo YES line. My home telephone, remote Panasonics, I simply use on speakerphone and have no issues. Holding the handset to my ear I need to play the juggling amusement, attempting to locate the best position to hear it. That is the reason I LOVE the iCom ... it unravels that at work where I utilize the telephone throughout the day. At home I can utilize the speakerphone, and I don't generally have different events to utilize different telephones. In the event that anybody needs to converse with me through wireless, they can call my phone ... so I never have need to utilize whatever other cell either.

nc2kids Does anybody know whether Audeo YES can be fitted with T-loop? How is the voice lucidity and gathering with mobile phone and general land line telephone use without the Icom availability? There will be sudden circumstances when you will utilize different cellphones and land line telephone not as of now combined with your Icom.

English Originally Posted by hippeaux

I do have an issue with the spasm of one HA - the correct form tends to slip out of my ear trench when I move my jaw, as in eating or yawning, or on the off chance that I move my ear. My audi has requested a more drawn out wire/tube, as that is likely the guilty party (my ear estimation was in the vicinity of 1 and 2, so we'll attempt the 2 next). The left shape has introduced no issues, remaining serenely set up as it should.

So satisfied for you.

Abnormal however I locate a similar issue with my correct shell, yet I had same issue with my ITH.

It's just when I bite so it's no issue to fly back in.

Had some good times at work yesterday. I utilized my portable and got one of them to call it and they were astonished at the nature of the call, individuals were strolling by and halted to watch this peculiar man conversing with himself I think my director needs bluetooth now Hah!

I have to look for the most ideal approach to connection to the TV now. For some odd reason in the event that i put the guides into phone mode with the MyPilot I can hear the TV unmistakably however the sound quality is tinny. Be that as it may, it's incredible to use with Mumblers.

Makes me giggle when individuals begin to talk boisterously at that point corrupt into muddled murmur tones

Right HA is likewise somewhat bring down in volume that the left so I should have that changed.

All of a sudden its a superb world once more.

I have far to go

johnmeeus Originally Posted by Confused

I have said this some time recently, however I too have issues with the Phonak molds slipping out - them two. My audi took another impression trusting it would help, yet they are similarly as awful. I am chronically pushing them into the point that individuals are remarking on my new unusual propensity. It is somewhat troublesome thinking of a reason since they don't know I wear helps. The finish of April Phonak will be turning out with molds produced using an alternate substance which should settle this issue. Ideally Hippeaux yours will be amended with a more drawn out wire. Provided that this is true, please let us know.

Since my guides were come back with the new forms some new issues have occured. When I leave go with the iCom, my cell loses the bluetooth association, so I need to kill the iCom and on again to re-interface. I have likewise seen that while utilizing the iCom, myPilot programs don't work - just the volume control.

I am not having the fortunes that some of you have with hearing on the telephone/cell either. The volume is far too low for me to listen.

Only a couple of things to fix....

Do you have extra data with respect to the new material for the custom molds ?

Confused I do have an issue with the spasm of one HA - the correct form tends to slip out of my ear waterway when I move my jaw, as in eating or yawning, or on the off chance that I move my ear. My audi has requested a more drawn out wire/tube, as that is likely the offender (my ear estimation was in the vicinity of 1 and 2, so we'll attempt the 2 next). The left shape has introduced no issues, remaining serenely set up as it should.

I have said this some time recently, yet I too have issues with the Phonak molds slipping out - them two. My audi took another impression trusting it would help, yet they are similarly as terrible. I am continually pushing them into the point that individuals are remarking on my new peculiar propensity. It is somewhat troublesome thinking of a reason since they don't know I wear helps. The finish of April Phonak will be turning out with molds produced using an alternate substance which should settle this issue. Ideally Hippeaux yours will be amended with a more extended wire. Assuming this is the case, please let us know.

Since my guides were come back with the new forms some new issues have occured. When I leave run with the iCom, my cell loses the bluetooth association, so I need to kill the iCom and on again to re-interface. I have additionally seen that while utilizing the iCom, myPilot programs don't work - just the volume control.

I am not having the fortunes that some of you have with hearing on the telephone/cell either. The volume is far too low for me to listen.

Only a couple of things to fix....

Neilk Originally Posted via airborn65

Much obliged to you such a great amount for sharing this significant data about Audeo YES!

Neilk, please keep us refreshed as you find more superb stuff with Audeo YES ! I am cheery in getting this model and in spite of the fact that I have huge level of hearing misfortune than you folks who have attempted Audeo, I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Expectation I can get second supposition from specialists out there or comparative clients with my level of hearing misfortune particularly the advantages that can be achieved with Audeo YES.

Keep it up Neilk. same with different folks who are as of now encountering profits by this model!

My pleasure Airborn ... simply sharing my adoration for these

nc2kids Thank you such a great amount for sharing this important data about Audeo YES!

Neilk, please keep us refreshed as you find more magnificent stuff with Audeo YES ! I am cheery in getting this model and despite the fact that I have noteworthy level of hearing misfortune than you folks who have attempted Audeo, I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Expectation I can get second conclusion from specialists out there or comparative clients with my level of hearing misfortune particularly the advantages that can be accomplished with Audeo YES.

Keep it up Neilk. same with different folks who are right now encountering profits by this model!

Neilk Well .. I am truly upbeat that an ever increasing number of individuals are affirming my sentiments about the Audeo YES and its iCom gadget. It's not a scratch and dent section gadget ... be that as it may, when hearing is your essential concern, I truly trust it might be the best thing out there in a long time.

Presently will need to attempt my PDA's mp3 player ... disregarded that thing.

hippeaux My first day impressions has transformed into my initial two days survey of my Phonak Audeo YES IX portable amplifiers.

Be that as it may, initially, maybe a little foundation data is all together.

I've had a sensorineural hearing misfortune since my introduction to the world in 1969, identified with my strong dystrophy. I started utilizing HAs around the age of 4, in 1973, start with a couple of behind-the-ear (HUUUGE) HAs. I had 2 or 3 sets of those until the point when the mid-80s when I got a couple of in-the-ear HAs. I've had a few distinct adaptations of those as of recently - Starkey, Siemens, and so on. All things considered, exactly 36 years of individual experience.

My last combine of Siemens ITC computerized HAs are 6 years of age today. In the previous year they've truly debased in work up to this point, when there is scarcely any yield in one and diminished yield in the other.

I've inquired about for around 2 months now and was really inclining towards the Oticon Epoq ITC, at that point educated of this site where I caught wind of the Audeo YES HA. I joined the gathering ideal about a similar time they were discharged! So that was great planning all around.

Neilk's posts, and the posts of others, decided on what to attempt first.

I'll be glad to answer any inquiries or attempt to elucidate anything I've composed. With that, we should get on with this fairly extensive post!

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The HAs are doing pleasantly generally. Clearly there's some tweaking to be done, however that was normal. There's nothing unconquerable, up until this point, I've encountered.Comfort & Style

The HAs are small! They are as little as a quarter long and maybe the thickness of 2 quarters stacked on each other. I have moderately little ears and the HAs are for all intents and purposes imperceptible from all edges where they sit on my ears - unnoticeable unless somebody looks carefully. I've been informed that they give off an impression of being a piece of my glasses.

A thin wire/tube stretches out from every HA to a custom shape in every ear. The molds, made by Phonak, contain a power collector/speaker. They sit somewhere down in my ear waterways and are considerably less obvious than my old Siemens in-the-trench HAs.

In view of their minor size and inconsequential weight, they are completely subtle to every day wear, even with my glasses.

I do observe that I must be cautious when the battery entryway is open on the HAs. The battery slips out effortlessly - I practically lost one of the little buggers the main night! A little care ought to lighten that burden.

I do have an issue with the spasm of one HA - the correct shape tends to slip out of my ear waterway when I move my jaw, as in eating or yawning, or on the off chance that I move my ear. My audi has requested a more drawn out wire/tube, as that is likely the guilty party (my ear estimation was in the vicinity of 1 and 2, so we'll attempt the 2 next). The left shape has exhibited no issues, remaining easily set up as it should.Feedback

There is for all intents and purposes no criticism to be had when measuring the HAs with my hand over my ears. Under ordinary conditions, I've encountered no criticism at all - not notwithstanding when wearing a coat with a hood. Indeed, even before my audi turned WhistleBlock (input cancelation) on, I saw no feedback.Performance

Generally speaking, I'm content with the HAs, as I expressed before all else. I think I'd like a greater amount of the lower frequencies (bass tones) expanded a bit, however I may have become used to that when my old Siemens began losing power a few months or so prior - the audi affirmed they were everything except dead. For all I know, this is the manner by which things should sound. In any case, given the idea of my listening ability misfortune, with highs being a more noteworthy misfortune than lows, that may simply be the place I've gotten more agreeable.

I do think, however, that the sounds I'm hearing can once in a while sound somewhat mechanical or simulated, or now and again somewhat brutal. I've seen this progressively when sitting in front of the TV - ordinary discussion isn't as articulated in such manner.

These things can be changed however, so I'm not excessively worried about it.

I'm recollecting exactly how boisterous the world can be... flying creatures tweeting and shouting, canines gasping and the snap of their nails on the floor, the consistent hints of the parkway a couple of pieces away - and am appreciating it massively.

But when my canine barks in my ear. iCom

...or, then again as I call it, [i]My bling.[/b]

The iCom is doing extraordinary with the Bluetooth - the main "negatives" aren't generally all that negative.

One is that it just has 4 hours use with Bluetooth - however at that point, most telephones and headsets have about a similar talk time, so that is not out of line.

The other "negative" is that the iCom amplifier is extremely delicate. This is both great and awful - I've had two or three protestations that it makes alot of boisterous stirring when it rubs over my shirt. Then again, everybody I've addressed while utilizing the iCom says that I'm coming through boisterous and clear - and I am unquestionably not talking uproariously.

The iCom combined without trouble with my Sony K850i cellphone. Not at all like each other headset I've attempted, I've experienced no irregular BT disengages amongst telephone and headset. Call quality on both closures has demonstrated superb - in stereo, no less!

I've likewise tuned in to music through my telephones worked in MP3 player. Since both gadgets bolster the A2DP Bluetooth profile, it has stereo sound. Sweet.MyPilot

I haven't had alot of need to utilize the MyPilot to change projects or utilize the ZoomControl (directional mouthpiece modification) yet, however I have played with those components, and additionally the volume control, and so forth. I can see the handiness of the My Pilot and realize that I would miss it's accommodation in future circumstances.

hearnow Crystal sound was a component of the old Audeo's giving misleadingly lifted high recurrence pick up. The sound recoup in the Audeo YES obviously sounds much better and has more genuine advantage.

Neilk Originally Posted by Fedora1998

I would state that the Yes III's are "less expensive" sounding that the Dots. By this I mean the sound quality appears to be more keen with the Dots, and accordingly my discourse understanding is better with them. I likewise however the Dots were adapting better to back ground commotion, for example, cooling fan clamor and street clamor in the auto. Then again however I was encountering a touch of criticism with the Dots, yet with the YES I can even container my ear and not a twitter out of them.

I'm trusting that the 20 channels will help with the sound quality. Do you think 20 stations versus 6 will be noticable? I was additionally perusing about "Christal Sound" prior. Do you know whether this is an element on the Yes IX's as it were?

I will readily post my comparason between the IX's and the III's.

Alex.

I haven't known about a "Precious stone Sound"? Be that as it may, I discover the IX's are completely clear ... what's more, more bass than the tinny sounding Pure's. They are a more lovely solid, and in addition more justifiable ... which I think may identify with the Sound Recover which conveys higher frequencies down to a recurrence that I can listen. You would feel that may sound bizarre or distorted even ... in any case, not under any condition.

Fedora1998 Originally Posted by Neilk

Apologies, yet not having trialed the III's, I have no reason for a correlation. What did dislike about the III's however? The III's are the most minimal model in the YES line, the IX's the top. They are 20 verses 6 channels, and the IX's have the expansion of Real Ear Sound, SoundRelax, and EchoBlock ... and additionally a couple of different things, for example, Advanced SoundFlow rather than Basic with the III's. Exactly how much distinction that allmakes will I figure end up plainly evident when you get the chance to think about the two. Throughout the years, I have constantly run with the lower cost, and did not get the best execution subsequently. This time, I said my listening ability and employment execution are more imperative than the cost included. Regardless of whether I cherish the IX's since I got my cash's worth, or in light of the fact that they truly simply are that greatly improved than what has been accessible, I couldn't state. Be that as it may, I can hear over and above anyone's expectations with them. What's more, they beat the hell out of the closest practically identical gadgets, the Siemens Pure's.

I might want to hear your correlation between the III's and the IX's after you trial them both.

I would state that the Yes III's are "less expensive" sounding that the Dots. By this I mean the sound quality appears to be more keen with the Dots, and subsequently my discourse understanding is better with them. I likewise however the Dots were adapting better to back ground clamor, for example, cooling fan commotion and street commotion in the auto. Then again however I was encountering a touch of criticism with the Dots, yet with the YES I can even container my ear and not a peep out of them.

I'm trusting that the 20 channels will help with the sound quality. Do you think 20 stations versus 6 will be noticable? I was likewise perusing about "Christal Sound" prior. Do you know whether this is an element on the Yes IX's as it were?

I will readily post my comparason between the IX's and the III's.

Alex.

Neilk Originally Posted by Fedora1998

I am as of now trailing Yes III's while my Dot 30's are being sent back to Resound for repair. So far I have discovered that I have favored the Dot 30's. I am attempting the Yes IX's one week from now.

Does anybody know whether the Yes IX will sound vastly different to the Yes III? I trust so as the iCom truly claims.

Much obliged,

Alex.

Apologies, yet not having trialed the III's, I have no reason for an examination. What did dislike about the III's however? The III's are the least model in the YES line, the IX's the top. They are 20 verses 6 channels, and the IX's have the expansion of Real Ear Sound, SoundRelax, and EchoBlock ... and also a couple of different things, for example, Advanced SoundFlow rather than Basic with the III's. Exactly how much distinction that allmakes will I figure wind up plainly obvious when you get the chance to look at the two. Throughout the years, I have constantly run with the lower cost, and did not get the best execution thus. This time, I said my listening ability and occupation execution are more critical than the cost included. Regardless of whether I cherish the IX's since I got my cash's worth, or on the grounds that they truly simply are that greatly improved than what has been accessible, I couldn't state. In any case, I can hear like nothing anyone's ever seen with them. What's more, they beat the hell out of the closest equivalent gadgets, the Siemens Pure's.

I might want to hear your correlation between the III's and the IX's after you trial them both.

Fedora1998 I am right now trailing Yes III's while my Dot 30's are being sent back to Resound for repair. So far I have discovered that I have favored the Dot 30's. I am attempting the Yes IX's one week from now.

Does anybody know whether the Yes IX will sound vastly different to the Yes III? I trust so as the iCom truly offers.

Much obliged,

Alex.

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

Concurred, concurred, concurred...

Will be posting my first day's musings in momentarily.

Will be tensely anticipating them

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

Much appreciated English ... I need to concur with the hearing in stereo .. what's more, particularly with the simply having the capacity to listen, and hear the telephone call plainly. That was what flabbergasted me more than anything ... I could really hear mobile phone calls without juggling the telephone, or without hauling a guide out to wear the blue-tooth headset. I trust you get over the slight impediment feeling ... be that as it may, would surmise that once you get used to the guides, you may not see it.

Concurred, concurred, concurred...

Will be posting my first day's musings in momentarily.

Neilk Originally Posted by English

I give them 9 out of 10 !

I took the custom shells, Soon as I place them in I felt more in touch. Connected up to my mobile phone and no sooner had I done it , it rang. It was the Visa organization inquiring as to whether it was OK to approve the installment.. I said YES!

It was so cool to hear her in stereo, what am I saying it was cool to simply hear her!!

Can hardly wait to connection to a Jabra 7010A at work and attempt a few gets out.

Slight impediment in the correct ear yet I will abandon it for 2 weeks to check whether it settles.

My audiogram comes about: 19/03/09

0250.Hz L-25 R-20

0500.Hz L-45 R-25

1000.Hz L-65 R-55

2000.Hz L-65 R-55

3000.Hz L-65 R-55

4000.Hz L-65 R-55

8000.Hz L-75 R-55

Much appreciated English ... I need to concur with the hearing in stereo .. also, particularly with the simply having the capacity to listen, and hear the telephone call unmistakably. That was what astounded me more than anything ... I could really hear wireless calls without juggling the telephone, or without hauling a guide out to wear the blue-tooth headset. I trust you get over the slight impediment feeling ... in any case, would feel that once you get used to the guides, you may not see it.

English I give them 9 out of 10 !

I took the custom shells, Soon as I place them in I felt more in touch. Connected up to my mobile phone and no sooner had I done it , it rang. It was the Visa organization inquiring as to whether it was OK to approve the installment.. I said YES!

It was so cool to hear her in stereo, what am I saying it was cool to simply hear her!!

Can hardly wait to connection to a Jabra 7010A at work and attempt a few gets out.

Slight impediment in the correct ear however I will abandon it for 2 weeks to check whether it settles.

My audiogram comes about: 19/03/09

0250.Hz L-25 R-20

0500.Hz L-45 R-25

1000.Hz L-65 R-55

2000.Hz L-65 R-55

3000.Hz L-65 R-55

4000.Hz L-65 R-55

8000.Hz L-75 R-55

Neilk Originally Posted by Mindflux

This is the thing that Phonak enlightened my audi regarding my concern.

I am uncertain why a custom shape would settle the input my hair is causing with the mic. It would settle the criticism issue the SIE causes when the arch isn't in my ear without flaw or when I bite, walk or move my head however...

My concern with the form is I now adequately would have a "CIC" with a line heading off to a BTE. Not a significant arrangement.

I had extreme input before changing to a custom shape. The shrieking would not stop ... by any stretch of the imagination, regardless of what my audi attempted to do. She attempted a wide range of vaults ... single, twofold, littler, bigger ... nothing made a difference. So she requested the custom molds ... which do take after my past CIC's. That settled the issue with the Siemen's Pure 500's.

When I chose to trial, and inevitably keep, the YES IX's, my audi quite recently went straight to the custom forms because of my involvement with the Pure's. I assume I should inquire as to whether she has the standard power vaults and try them out. However ... the remark about CIC's with a string heading off to a BTE is not exactly right. The BTE is more capable than the CIC. So in spite of the fact that it might show up as a CIC connected to a BTE, remember that it permits a bigger battery and an all the more capable guide. To me obviously, my listening ability is more vital than my vanity. Being a 60+ year old wedded person obviously impacts my needs. I put my listening ability capacity first.

By the way ... the rope is for all intents and purposes imperceptible.

Mindflux Experienced another issue with my Yes V today. Heading to the store all of a sudden street commotion turned out to be uproarious and my stereo turned out to be delicate.. I needed to twofold the stereo volume to hear it over the street clamor. Since this clearly isn't an ordinary situation I opened the battery way to close the guide off and shut it again and reestablished "commonality" to the programming. It happened again a brief time later... at the same time the "reboot" by means of battery entryway open/close arrangement yielded extremely swoon boot up beeps. After it received itself in return funk the bootup beeps wound up plainly ordinary volume and things have been "typical" for the programming I am utilizing.

Mindflux This is the thing that Phonak educated my audi regarding my concern.

chatted with an audiologist and they said that on the off chance that we did the custom shape – that would no doubt decrease or dispose of the criticism. The shuddering is definantly due to “entrainment” – we could conquer this by some manual changes in the high recurrence range. Along these lines, the custom shape with some calibrating would deal with

I am uncertain why a custom shape would settle the input my hair is causing with the mic. It would settle the input issue the SIE causes when the arch isn't in my ear without flaw or when I bite, walk or move my head however...

My concern with the form is I now adequately would have a "CIC" with a rope setting off to a BTE. Not a significant arrangement.

English Originally Posted by Mindflux

Having a hell of a period with my Yes V. We empowered Whistleblock in light of the fact that my hair was making the listening device shriek. As far back as then wind clamor and long beeps sound fluttery (like a feline murmuring), which makes music and talking sound a similar way while this is occuring.

Turned whistleblock back off, and now my criticism is back when my hair needs to cause fits and things like flourescent lights cause input as well. As yet having an issue with the vaults being awkward and making impediment from time.

yick.

This is the main genuine issue post I have seen about the Yes V's, I will be depending on the whistleblock so lets trust it is not very problematical.

nineteenth March is touchdown day for me, I'm really getting apprehensive over HA's surprisingly. Expectation I have not set my expectations too high.

By the way I have high any desires for getting the Jabra center point in my office now, they are investigating it for me.

Keep us educated on how you get on with your issues.

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

How much longer is the hold up?

The hawk has landed!

I'm planned to get the HAs on Wednesday! In case I'm fortunate, the iCom will be in by then too.

Happiness!

Mindflux Having a hell of a period with my Yes V. We empowered Whistleblock on the grounds that my hair was making the amplifier shriek. As far back as then wind commotion and long beeps sound fluttery (like a feline murmuring), which makes music and talking sound a similar way while this is occuring.

Turned whistleblock back off, and now my input is back when my hair needs to cause fits and things like flourescent lights cause criticism as well. As yet having an issue with the arches being awkward and making impediment from time.

yick.

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

Sorry to learn that. My audi thought she'd experience serious difficulties the YES and was astonished that we just had a one week hold up at the time. I feel your agony. I took mine into my audi yesterday just to have her empower the Voice Dialing in the iCom setup, and the Last Number Redial in the same. She didn't realize that was a choice. I'll presumably need to remain on top of her to ensure she gets any future programming/firmware redesigns that Phonak lets free.

That is the interesting thing - not experiencing difficulty getting the YESes, simply the iCom. Furthermore, VoiceDialing has unquestionably demonstrated convenient. Better believe it, we gotta remain on top of the diversion!

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

Bummer, buddy.

While my listening device conveyance is evidently on plan, Phonak reached my audie and revealed to her that the iCom was on delay purchase for one more week.

Sorry to learn that. My audi thought she'd experience considerable difficulties the YES and was astounded that we just had a one week hold up at the time. I feel your torment. I took mine into my audi yesterday just to have her empower the Voice Dialing in the iCom setup, and the Last Number Redial in the same. She didn't realize that was an alternative. I'll most likely need to remain on top of her to ensure she gets any future programming/firmware redesigns that Phonak lets free.

Pansylady Originally Posted by hippeaux

To cite Charlie Brown, "For hell's sake!"

Sitting tight for my new listening devices to come in makes me feel like a child on Christmas Eve... C'mon, Santa!

I concur! I've been holding up a week and a half for my Phonak Naida V's

so ideally anyday now . Attempting to be understanding.

hippeaux Bummer, fella.

While my listening device conveyance is evidently on plan, Phonak reached my audie and disclosed to her that the iCom was on delay purchase for one more week.

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

End of this current week, start of next was the gauge - relying upon how rapidly they make the custom molds. The impressions were sent off Wednesday. Does a week and a half stable about right?

I think my custom molds took around one week even. Be that as it may, I had a week and a half hold up to get the YES themselves.

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

How much longer is the hold up?

End of this current week, start of next was the gauge - relying upon how rapidly they make the custom molds. The impressions were sent off Wednesday. Does a week and a half stable about right?

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

I think just the Naidas and the Audeo YESes have SoundRecover up until this point. That is one reason I picked the Audeos over the Exelias.

Despite everything I can hardly wait.

How much longer is the hold up?

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

In the event that I am right, the YES IX's have Sound Recover and the Exelia don't. The Exelia look very near the YES IX's other than that one thing.

I think just the Naidas and the Audeo YESes have SoundRecover up until this point. That is one reason I picked the Audeos over the Exelias.

Despite everything I can hardly wait.

Neilk Originally Posted by johnmeeus

Howdy !

Amid around 3 years I utilized the Phonak Savia listening devices and now I'm utilizing the Siemens Pure 700 however I'm exceptionally dissapointed.

Metalic sound, distorsion in the high recurrence range,not sufficiently uproarious in a very atmosphere and to boisterous in a noisy feeling.

In the wake of perusing the gathering totally, I need to change to the Phonak Audeo YES IX or the EXELIA.

The Exelia has the advange to consolidate diverse controls to change projects and volume.

Is there a contrast between thes two models with respect to the sound quality ?

This is my inquiry.

Exceptionally sad for my poor English ....

Best respects from France,

On the off chance that I am right, the YES IX's have Sound Recover and the Exelia don't. The Exelia look very near the YES IX's other than that one thing. Sound Recover takes the high recurrence sounds and conveys them down to a lower recurrence. Those with high recurrence misfortune would profit by this component. I found that it is truly expanding my own oath perception a lot. I had trialed the Pure 500's first and observed them to be tinny or metalic sounding too. To me, the YES IX's resembled a blessing from heaven.

johnmeeus Hi !

Amid around 3 years I utilized the Phonak Savia listening devices and now I'm utilizing the Siemens Pure 700 yet I'm extremely dissapointed.

Metalic sound, distorsion in the high recurrence range,not sufficiently boisterous in a very vibe and to noisy in an uproarious feeling.

In the wake of perusing the gathering totally, I need to change to the Phonak Audeo YES IX or the EXELIA.

The Exelia has the advange to fuse diverse controls to change projects and volume.

Is there a distinction between thes two models in regards to the sound quality ?

This is my inquiry.

Extremely sad for my poor English ....

Best respects from France,

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

To cite Charlie Brown, "For hell's sake!"

Sitting tight for my new listening devices to come in makes me feel like a child on Christmas Eve... C'mon, Santa!

I can relate

hippeaux To cite Charlie Brown, "For mercy's sake!"

Sitting tight for my new listening devices to come in makes me feel like a child on Christmas Eve... C'mon, Santa!

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

All things considered, considering that the scope of the commonplace bluetooth gadget is just around 10 meters/33 feet, diminished by snags, for example, dividers, and so forth - and for the most part not a decent flag towards the external range even unblocked.

Precisely my point. Incidentally, for illumination, I don't work for the legislature, yet for a little programming organization that does voter databasing and County Clerk/Recorder databasing. So in spite of the fact that we don't work specifically under Uncle Sam, we do work with and approach touchy information. Essentially, we are sub-temporary workers working as a team with area level workplaces and the Secretary's of State in the 3 expresses that we have customers in. My employment is database administration, equipment and systems administration setup and upkeep, preparing, and specialized help.

hippeaux Originally Posted by English

Much obliged to you for the additional information, I was thinking similarly, however I work for the Government to there will undoubtedly be no less than one do-gooder who will call attention to some direction or other.

At any rate I can guarantee them nobody outside the building will be ready to tune in. Who knows possibly all the staff will inspire one to use with Jabra headsets.

When I get fitted I will let all of you know how I get on.

All things considered, considering that the scope of the run of the mill bluetooth gadget is just around 10 meters/33 feet, reduced by impediments, for example, dividers, and so on - and for the most part not a decent flag towards the external range even unblocked.

English Originally Posted by Neilk

Reveal to them that you might want to determine the issue brisk and simple and at no cost to them ... unless they will foot the $100 charge for the Jabra. I just felt free to did it all alone, however I work for a little organization, and we are our own particular IT as we are all specialists. I know I could have approached my organization to pay for or purchase the Jabra, which would have then included summoning the Disabled Americans thingy what not. It was recently less demanding to simply get it and do it. The main thing required by the organization is that they furnish a telephone with a standard headset that associates by means of a standard headset jack as that is the thing that the Jabra connects to. It's blue-tooth, and combined to a solitary gadget ... unless they have security issues with blue-tooth. We claim our own particular building, and we are fortified as we do work with government databases .. in any case, all things being equal, the range is not that far. Somebody sitting outside our soot obstruct couldn't pick my flag by any means. That may be the main thing of worry to them, and it ought not by any stretch of the imagination be an issue unless you are dealing with and talking about top mystery issues on the telephones, not an ordinary environment, however conceivable. I totally LOVE the Jabra/iCom combo as it puts my telephone calls straightforwardly in my ear and I have 100% word appreciation on every single call utilizing them. The main issue I experienced was one client saying I sounded far away. I took a gander at the markers, saw my energy was on yellow rather than green, got the power plug and asked her "What about now?" That settled that slight issue ... you can keep utilizing it connected to revive.

Much obliged to you for the additional information, I was thinking similarly, yet I work for the Government to there will undoubtedly be no less than one do-gooder who will call attention to some control or other.

At any rate I can guarantee them nobody outside the building will be ready to tune in. Who knows perhaps all the staff will inspire one to use with Jabra headsets.

When I get fitted I will let all of you know how I get on.

ccvickers Originally Posted by Neilk

Goodness, for beyond any doubt it would Though I'm not entirely certain about rolling out improvements as I am not ha programming clever and would likely foul something up.

Ahh.. be that as it may, with PC based programming, couldn't the underlying settings be spared to a record that can be reviewed?

I'd be more worried about harming my officially poor hearing by making the wrong settings. Regardless I don't get a handle on why the audi sets the HA volume so boisterous it impact my ears, at that point discloses to me my mind needs time to change, yet we are cautioned that earbuds are especially harming on the grounds that they coordinate the sound waves specifically in the ear. Hypothetically, aren't the threats basically the same?

carolo Definitely energizing to hear all the positive input on the Audeo YES! Possibly they should be simpler to program for audiologists or all these glad clients have hit explosive HA containers and audi.

Despite everything I have a couple of "issues" w/my Exelia P and should come back to audi for yet additionally programming. This has not been a simple wander. 3 audiologists, three altogether unique workplaces/organizations and one entire year. Over $7,000 and about the time I believe I'm about there, I find truly I am most certainly not. My Radio Shack Personal Amplifier and Bose earbuds give me all round better outcomes. That is $140 for the combo when contrasted with the cost of HA of $7,000 and many visits to the arrangement of workplaces.

In the mean time, I'm perusing posts of fulfilled Audeo YES! what's more, enchanted for every one of you, and also the individuals who have them in transit. Maybe there is an answer for me too. Only a figure yet from what I'm perusing the Audeo YES! is in fact a jump forward in innovation, at any rate for the individuals who are appropriate competitors. Nothing superior to examples of overcoming adversity!

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

I very concur... In any case, it beyond any doubt would be perfect to play with.

Goodness, for beyond any doubt it would Though I'm not entirely certain about rolling out improvements as I am not ha programming keen and would likely botch something up. I've brought home the bacon on the normal PC client not being PC sagacious ... so know direct that the individuals who don't have the foggiest idea, messing where they shouldn't mess, tend to spoil things enough to make work for the individuals who contemplate and do comprehend what they are doing. We had a colloquialism in technical support about the end client being sufficiently keen to mess things up. They were savvy enough to make sense of how to get where they shouldn't have been

It is decent to have the capacity to overhaul firmware in the remote and iCom if and when those updates are discharged to have the capacity to remain up and coming. I don't know whether the iCube obliges those errands however.

hippeaux Originally Posted by Neilk

I would be truly inquisitive to hear how the iCube functions .. be that as it may, despite everything I don't think I'd spend the additional $350 to get one. I haven't seen anybody write about the iCube itself yet.

I very concur... In any case, it beyond any doubt would be perfect to play with.

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

I requested a couple of Audeo YES IXs on Wednesday, with control recipient and custom shape - and iCom and MyPilot, obviously. As yet debating the buy of an iCube...

Ought to have them in a week or something like that.

I would be truly inquisitive to hear how the iCube functions .. in any case, regardless I don't think I'd spend the additional $350 to get one. I haven't seen anybody cover the iCube itself yet.

hippeaux I requested a couple of Audeo YES IXs on Wednesday, with control beneficiary and custom shape - and iCom and MyPilot, obviously. As yet debating the buy of an iCube...

Ought to have them in a week or somewhere in the vicinity.

Neilk Originally Posted by English

I am new to so much stuff however was over the moon when I read this.

I have recently requested Yes V's with icom and Mypilot, to finish it off I have requested the Jabra A1070 for my home.

I almost did cartwheels around the room when I heard this positive input.

I have one issue.. Getting my manager to comprehend my necessities. I think I will wind up paying a considerable measure of cash only for them to attempt and compel some option tech on me. I have brought up how compelling and shoddy the Jabra will be however they need me to experience a long assesment, at that point I should influence the IT individuals in my office at that point need to sit tight for them to think of the products... If at any point. Perhaps I am being skeptical.

I live in trust and may simply print this off for them to peruse, Thanks once more.

Wish you could see the grin all over

Disclose to them that you might want to determine the issue fast and simple and at no cost to them ... unless they will foot the $100 charge for the Jabra. I just felt free to did it all alone, however I work for a little organization, and we are our own particular IT as we are all specialists. I know I could have approached my organization to pay for or purchase the Jabra, which would have then included conjuring the Disabled Americans thingy what not. It was quite recently simpler to simply get it and do it. The main thing required by the organization is that they give a telephone a standard headset that interfaces through a standard headset jack as that is the thing that the Jabra connects to. It's blue-tooth, and combined to a solitary gadget ... unless they have security issues with blue-tooth. We possess our own building, and we are fortified as we do work with government databases .. in any case, all things being equal, the range is not that far. Somebody sitting outside our ash obstruct couldn't pick my flag by any stretch of the imagination. That may be the main thing of worry to them, and it ought not by any stretch of the imagination be an issue unless you are dealing with and talking about top mystery issues on the telephones, not an ordinary environment, however conceivable. I totally LOVE the Jabra/iCom combo as it puts my telephone calls specifically in my ear and I have 100% word appreciation on every single call utilizing them. The main issue I experienced was one client saying I sounded far away. I took a gander at the pointers, saw my energy was on yellow rather than green, got the power plug and asked her "What about now?" That settled that slight issue ... you can keep utilizing it connected to energize.

English I am new to so much stuff yet was over the moon when I read this.

I have quite recently requested Yes V's with icom and Mypilot, to finish it off I have requested the Jabra A1070 for my home.

I about did cartwheels around the room when I heard this positive criticism.

I have one issue.. Getting my boss to comprehend my necessities. I think I will wind up paying a ton of cash only for them to attempt and compel some option tech on me. I have called attention to how powerful and shabby the Jabra will be however they need me to experience a long assesment, at that point I should induce the IT individuals in my office at that point need to sit tight for them to think of the products... If at any point. Possibly I am being skeptical.

I live in trust and may simply print this off for them to peruse, Thanks once more.

Wish you could see the grin all over

schultzan31 got these yesterday...

the sound is much clearer than my exelia's yet tragically they are backpedaling on the grounds that I can't get them sufficiently uproarious.

SidM Originally Posted by Ozzie

I have my arrangement next Friday 3/6/09 for Exelia M BTE, would you be able to reveal to me the amount you paid for the HA and what else you acquired.

Ozzie, I just purchased mine last week and paid $5,900 for two Exelia micros without any adornments. This was publicized as a deal, be that as it may, I have no clue what "bargain" I truly got. Shockingly, I have no protection that spreads HAs, in this way, needed to hack up the whole sum out of my own pocket. You can get them for $4,200 from precisehearing.com, be that as it may, are all alone getting them calibrated for YOUR requirements. The nearby audi I obtained from is standing directly behind me on getting them without flaw for my requirements. The value of that is impalpable.

Ozzie Originally Posted by joesc

I've utilized the iCom with the Exelia for more than 6 months now. It's a straightforward gadget, with only a major catch on it. A few people contrast it with the star trek communicator (just not as brilliant or cool looking ). It does the employment for associating with bluetooth gadgets, yet that is whatever it does. In the event that you as often as possible change the volume or projects on your guides and you would prefer not to do it on the guide (or can't), at that point you require the myPilot. Which is simply one more thing to bear. Since I can change those things on my guide, I don't convey the myPilot much.

I have my arrangement next Friday 3/6/09 for Exelia M BTE, would you be able to disclose to me the amount you paid for the HA and what else you bought.

adgraham Originally Posted by Neilk

I trust the Tek said it couldn't or ought not be utilized while connected to the charger. I'm not discovering anything in the iCom book expressing that however. In fact, today I took it off amid my meal break and connected it to the charger without turning it off first. The blue-tooth association light continued glimmering, showing it was still on line with the Jabra. I didn't think to take a stab at making a call with it however to check whether it would work when connected to. This would be a decent time to do as such as well, while it's new and can be supplanted effectively without question and the fault be put on client blunder and no conspicuous documentation expressing not to do as such.

Yes, the Icom can be utilized while it is charging. Initially, they set it up so you couldn't utilize it yet there was a firmware overhaul 6 months back or so that permitted the Icoms to be utilized while charging. It works incredible. There was likewise say of utilizing a bluetooth transmitter with the TV. I have the Jabra A120s and by nature of bluetooth, there is a postpone so the sound lands at your listening devices only a hair late. I've had much better fortunes utilizing my smartlink for the TV or in the event that you connect it to, it is shockingly better. Smartlink FM doesn't transmit genuine encompass stereo however connecting it specifically to the icom provides stereo sound.

Neilk burra, I thoroughly concur on the estimation of utilizing a nearby audi rather than one on line. I trust that my listening ability is essential to me as it influences my employment execution, and additionally my pleasure in life. I owe it to my organization to execute as well as can be expected, and to myself to appreciate however much as could reasonably be expected ... also my better half so she doesn't need to continue rehashing herself And I trust that having somebody who knows me by and by, has an association with me that is something other than a voice on line, and that I have met and feel great with is justified regardless of the additional cost to give that level of administration and solace. I didn't feel great with the last individual I managed, an authorized listening device allocator who came in after I had purchased there and after the first person passed away. His assistant was not the best, and I didn't feel that he was completely able. So I proceeded onward from that point and am with an adjacent audiologist now. Up until this point, she appears to be vastly improved generally, if a slight piece higher evaluated ... in any case, that level of solace becomes possibly the most important factor there. Nothing in California is shabby to begin with. Houses, fuel, sustenance, eateries ... all cost more here than most anyplace else. I think that its simpler to converse with somebody face to face and to attempt to portray whatever and have them direct me for additionally input if necessary.

SidM Originally Posted by burra

Likewise, as the proprietor/audiologist of a little autonomous facility I'd truly empower any of you considering purchasing helps to help your nearby Audiologist.... Audiologists by and large examination audiology (and it takes years!!) to help individuals !.....And those little experts who haven't got "representatives" guiding them (i.e cut cost - constrain time - offer just costly guides and so forth) will dependably have the capacity to give the best administration and go the additional mile (in spite of having littler markups as we can't get the mass arrangements of greater facilities!) - our notoriety is our most vital resource - its not worth gambling over giving junk benefit - greater centers may have the capacity to escape with it yet not little centers!

audiologists will be audiologists and not psychics - its difficult to see precisely what each individual is hearing through their guides (and everybody has distinctive observations with respect to what sounds ideal for them - by and by I like it tinny - however numerous don't!!!).... So getting the correct result takes two, a touch of steadiness and comprehension and correspondence!!! - not only the aud fitting to some standard solution (henceforth why you'll never get the best result out of web merchants - you may get "fortunate" - however it's dangerous)

I trust all of you have great encounters and that none of your guides wind up stuck in a drawer some place!!!

Burra, all that you said in this post seems to be valid with the perspective I experienced in running 100% with my nearby audi. He truly knows his stuff and is anxious to get the best outcomes for his customers. Anybody in the Stephenville, TX, territory intrigued, just PM me and I'll give you his contact data.

Neilk burra, much obliged for your knowledge on the Tek and why it didn't do it for me. The other thing I didn't care for about the Tek versus the MyPilot is that the Tek offered only a couple of snaps whichever way on volume control and didn't appear to make a big deal about a distinction. Actually, attempting to take after the Siemens DVD with its guidelines to set the sound physically very nearly too delicate and too noisy, and afterward to utilize the Tek to do as such ... I couldn't get it close utilizing the Tek, there was insufficient alteration accessible. The MyPilot not just has 10 stages up and 10 down from focus, your solace point, however modifies the volume by 2dB for each snap and demonstrates to you a physical show of precisely where you are. Also, it truly goes from too calm to too uproarious. The scope of volume settings is substantially more responsive and also outwardly shown with the MyPilot. I'll post all the more later, time to make a beeline for work here.

MsPam Originally Posted by burra

Additionally, as the proprietor/audiologist of a little autonomous center I'd truly empower any of you considering purchasing helps to help your nearby Audiologist.... Audiologists for the most part contemplate audiology (and it takes years!!) keeping in mind the end goal to help individuals !.....And those little specialists who haven't got "representatives" guiding them (i.e cut cost - restrict time - offer just costly guides and so forth) will dependably have the capacity to give the best administration and go the additional mile (in spite of having littler markups as we can't get the mass arrangements of greater facilities!) - our notoriety is our most critical resource - its not worth gambling over giving refuse benefit - greater centers may have the capacity to escape with it yet not little facilities!

audiologists will be audiologists and not psychics - its difficult to see precisely what each individual is hearing through their guides (and everybody has distinctive discernments with respect to what sounds appropriate for them - by and by I like it tinny - however numerous don't!!!).... So getting the correct result takes two, a touch of steadiness and comprehension and correspondence!!! - not only the aud fitting to some standard remedy (thus why you'll never get the best result out of web merchants - you may get "fortunate" - however it's dangerous)

I trust all of you have great encounters and that none of your guides wind up stuck in a drawer some place!!!

burra,

I would be cheerful to help an audi with your devotion to patients. Sadly it is not too normal to find(at slightest as far as I can tell). Each visit cuts into the primary concern and it is very enticing for an audi - vast or little to forego benefit (and doing "the correct thing") for benefit.

Uh, sort of like how our economy got where it is today.

burra Also, as the proprietor/audiologist of a little autonomous facility I'd truly energize any of you considering purchasing helps to help your nearby Audiologist.... Audiologists by and large investigation audiology (and it takes years!!) so as to help individuals !.....And those little specialists who haven't got "representatives" instructing them (i.e cut cost - constrain time - offer just costly guides and so on) will dependably have the capacity to give the best administration and go the additional mile (in spite of having littler markups as we can't get the mass arrangements of greater facilities!) - our notoriety is our most critical resource - its not worth gambling over giving waste administration - greater centers may have the capacity to escape with it yet not little facilities!

audiologists will be audiologists and not psychics - its difficult to see precisely what each individual is hearing through their guides (and everybody has diverse discernments with reference to what sounds appropriate for them - actually I like it tinny - however numerous don't!!!).... So getting the correct result takes two, a touch of steadiness and comprehension and correspondence!!! - not only the aud fitting to some standard remedy (thus why you'll never get the best result out of web merchants - you may get "fortunate" - yet it's unsafe)

I trust all of you have great encounters and that none of your guides wind up stuck in a drawer some place!!!

burra Hi Neilk - I'm quite recently new to this discussion - I'm a portable amplifier wearer and an audiologist (I was one of the individuals who needed to have the capacity to program my own guides .....I've been exceptionally inspired by perusing your perspectives on the audeo yes'... I as of late had a customer who trialed the life 700 (siemens) - he had that troublesome steeply inclining hearing misfortune (i.e an excessive amount of high freq pick up and it sounds tinny - insufficient and there isn't sufficient benefit)... He didn't care for them so He's presently got the yes V's.... The excellence of these guides (and I'm think about why you like them so much) is the recurrence pressure which implies that as opposed to attempt to build pick up and make it sound tinny - they simply pack the flag to a recurrence region that doesn't have a similar level of hair cell harm - consequently you see it as more discernable and agreeable!!!

I have a sensibly "level" direct hearing misfortune and truly like the immaculate 700's - I truly like the "soundbrilliance" for music - however individuals with restricted sharpness in the high frequencies simply aren't ready to profit by this.... Your challenges with the Tek are legitimate - bluetooth is just transmitted up to 7k (subsequently why siemens built up the soundbrilliance trying to make it sound more full) and it has a deferral and in all honesty doesn't sound incredible (staticy and so forth - anybody with a bluetooth headset has encountered this) ideally it'll show signs of improvement soon!!! Bose earphones (my decision ) or a physical lead certainly work better!

I'm with you on the look of the tek - possibly the Germans simply lack same feel as the swiss or danes .....

....I trust my customer has an indistinguishable accomplishment with his Yes' from you - you've given me consolation!!!

Neilk Sid, happy to hear that you had a decent neighborhood encounter. I concur wholeheartedly on the estimation of a neighborhood audi over the Internet benefit. I have been a Netizen for quite a long time, one of Netflix's unique individuals when they were only a neighborhood organization in CA, and the same with Earthlink ... I was with them numerous years back when they just adjusted a little segment of CA. I used to sustenance shop over the Net, I chip away at the Net, I routinely purchase things from the Dell Store, Best Buy on line, et cetera. However, with regards to something that requires an aggregate individual touch to be set splendidly custom to fit, I'll remain with the nearby administration.

When I first trialed the Siemens Pure 500's, I had that twittering in the workplace. My audi promptly attempted diverse sizes and distinctive sorts of arches without any result. She got it down to the slightest sum I could endure and took my ear shape for the custom molds. When I got them, they were awesome to the extent freeing me of the twitters. Be that as it may, the guides still sounded tinny, regardless of what she did. So we requested the YES IX that I read about here on this board. She squandered no time and had the custom molds made for the guides and prepared to utilize when she got them in for me. They are unexpected forms in comparison to the Pures utilized.

We are all unique however. I found the Pures tinny, the YES sound extraordinary, great bass where I expect it, astounding word understanding ... the best I've had since beginning to utilize helps 7+ years back. Presently, with respect to the iCom ... I got that for both my cell and office work area telephones. It works incredible with both, expanding my listening ability and seeing ten times on them two. I adore the stereo telephone discussion, that appears to have a considerable measure to do with it. With respect to the TV, I utilize my home theater framework for staring at the TV and motion pictures, can't beat delightful encompass sound, even 5.1. Be that as it may, on end of the week mornings, my better half likes to rest in and I don't prefer to lounge around like a knock on a log. It's the ideal time for me to play the PS3, and I cherish first individual shooters which implies heaps of clamor. I haven't attempted a blue-tooth transmitter, yet have extend my old 25 foot earphone augmentation link over the floor and connected the iCom to by means of its single stereo link. It is more agreeable than wearing a headset, even my little lightweight Bose. Also, it sounds practically comparable to the Bose ... unquestionably route superior to the Siemens Tek sounded utilizing its included blue-tooth transmitter. I'd love to attempt a transmitter with the iCom, however they aren't precisely promptly accessible in your neighborhood Best Buy, where it would least demanding to trial and return if frustrating. Nor are they shabby. So I am content with the link for the present in any event. Possibly when the following huge check roll in from Uncle Sam

SidM Well, this has been a significant day. The short story is: I went to my neighborhood audi who persuaded me that the Phonak Exelia would be more dependable than the littler and more sensitive YES IXs. He had the YES IXs prepared for me to attempt when I arrived and put them on me. The outcome appeared to be tantamount to what I had encountered with the Exelias. Since I additionally loved the way that the Exelia utilized the bigger size (13) battery, which gives longer administration than the YES's 312 size, I selected to take after his slant to support the Exelia demonstrate.

Having gained from Neilk's extraordinary posts about the preferences offered by the iCom frill, I got some information about that and got a decent summary on it that resounded what Neilk has let us know here. In the event that I come to feel that my home theater experience could be enhanced with its expansion, I'll get one, alongside the connector unit for the extra large screen t.v. I don't utilize the telephone so much that I would profit by overhauling my phone to bluetooth, in this way, that likely won't be a central element. After we returned home, I exchanged on Judge Judy and heard each word. Cool!

In the wake of leaving the audi's office my better half and I did some shopping amid which I found that my guides were giving me a considerable amount of piercing peeps and tweeps alongside approaching sounds. This sounded particular from the sounds and discourse, yet were unquestionably going with them as ancient rarities. We backpedaled to the audi who promptly fitted me for uniquely formed earpods (?) and supplanted the current little silicone earcups with the following size up. All on the hypothesis that my concern was criticism inside the ear trench. That appears to have helped, in any case, I am as yet getting a great deal of that drivel. It frequently seems like crickets trilling, some of the time when there is clear hush. That in any case, my discourse understanding if certainly extraordinarily made strides.

Presently in the matter of why I ran with the neighborhood audi instead of the significantly less expensive precisehearing.com. While I could have spared $1,700 on the price tag for the two, my audi has as of now, in only two free visits, furnished me with an abundance of help by means of his master coordinate perception and assessment of my needs, additionally, his refined gear and Phonak programming give him (and, accordingly, me) a hands-on encounter that will, at last, result in an immaculate custom fit and tuning. People, those are things you ain't going to get by just sending your audiogram to a web organization. With the unobtrusive changes and tweaking that these things require after some time, there is quite recently no sensible way you can get satisfactory outcomes from long separation correspondence and the delivery of your guides forward and backward. My experience today, alone, as above portrayed, is confirmation of the estimation of a neighborhood master.

There's additional. I likewise understood that a nearby audi is a great retail merchant. In that capacity, he would regularly be relied upon to apply a 100% markup to his discount cost for items he offers. Multiplying of the cost paid by retailers to their wholesalers is the standard, with the exception of rebate outlets that undercut the retail cost. On the off chance that you figure it out on my listening device exchange you see that my paying $5,900 (as I simply did) wasn't such a terrible arrangement, even in coordinate buy terms, slighting the lifetime benefit that my neighborhood audi will be giving. As to that last remark, note from the over that he has as of now began giving that progressing help. How might you beat that?

Neilk ccvickers, remember that I am in The OC ... where everything costs more My accuse finish of everything was $7,300, my protection pays $5,000 of that. That is the two portable hearing assistants with the standard maker 2 year guarantee and the iCom and myPilot. I don't know, but rather I think she said extra arrangements after the 2 years would be $50 each, with a free follow-up to each for minor re-alterations.

The underlying hearing exam and audiogram are free. I just needed to pay in the wake of choosing to arrange a couple, and they had a 60 day no charge trial/return period. She requested a moment match at no extra charge and enabled me to trial them one next to the other if sought. When I had the YES in, the Siemens never backpedaled into utilization however.

ccvickers NeilK - What misfortune/harm and guarantee did you get from the producer. It creates the impression that some audis will offer expanded scope. (HearingPlanet covers Audeo IX for a long time) Were you offered that?

Additionally, what amount may an office visit taken a toll for a change? I'm resigned military, and as of now in Iraq on government contract, and have never really paid for restorative care. Hearing exams/helps are not ordinarily secured for retirees. How frequently a year could sombody hope to visit and audi?

SidM - I've had 3 audi's since requiring help for my listening ability. My first was wonderful! He REALLY thought about his patients - exceptionally patient, proficient and instructive. HAs were a possibility for me in those days - I picked not to get them at the time.

The other two were deigning jerks who's reaction to my worries, amid my first and final fitting (once with each), was "that is the way listening devices sound, you'll simply need to get accustomed to it.". I left the workplace trusting them. I was so hopeless I quit wearing the guides on both events and since battled through 10 years unassisted.

As of late, trusting innovation had enhanced since my last arrangement of HAs, I started to examine HA and discovered this site. Until the point when perusing about the encounters of the people here, I didn't realize that you could have a lovely hearing background with HAs.

On the off chance that I could discover an audi like my in the first place, I wouldn't see any problems with paying the $1700 in light of the fact that I'd be sure that he would stay with me until the point when I had the best hearing knowledge I could. On the off chance that your audi's an "attendant", he might just be justified regardless of the $1700 over the life of your HAs.

My quandary between making an on-line buy or "neighborhood" buy originates from the likelihood of my remaining in Iraq through the guarantee time of the HA. There are no audis here to make alterations or give benefit. I truly question whether I'd receive any reward from a nearby buy in my odd circumstance.

Neilk Originally Posted by hippeaux

I know a few gadgets permit utilize while charging, yet some don't. Will the iCom Bluetooth be utilized while it's charging?

I trust the Tek said it couldn't or ought not be utilized while connected to the charger. I'm not discovering anything in the iCom book expressing that however. To be sure, today I took it off amid my meal break and connected it to the charger without turning it off first. The blue-tooth association light continued glimmering, showing it was still on line with the Jabra. I didn't think to have a go at making a call with it however to check whether it would work when connected to. This would be a decent time to do as such as well, while it's new and can be supplanted effortlessly without question and the fault be set on client blunder and no conspicuous documentation expressing not to do as such.

Neilk Sid, I concur, it is a hard decicion to profit spared and not by any stretch of the imagination knowing end cost generally speaking and how much administration would be required. I would foresee that not very numerous fittings or modifications would be required as my audi set them up superbly the first run through. The Siemens she never got very appropriate with 3 fittings and those are the ones she pushes. I can just think about an exceptionally minor change I might want made, and that is just bringing down the mics when I'm on blue-tooth calls with the iCom. It's not even an exceptional thing, only a solace level that I'd most likely pass on in the event that I needed to deliver them some place, however effortlessly done when the administration is neighborhood.

I took care of purchasing, so don't think I'd go anyplace scrutinizing her evaluating instead of web valuing. I'd be occupied with hearing your outcomes however

hippeaux I know a few gadgets permit utilize while charging, however some don't. Can the iCom Bluetooth be utilized while it's charging?

SidM Hi, to Neilk, ccvickers, what not.

Subsequent to perusing your most recent post, Neilk, I may need to reexamine my technique. What I had as a main priority was to spare $1,700 dollars, in advance, for the buy of a couple of YES IX's by getting them from PreciseHearing.com, and, make an arrangement with the neighborhood audi for benefit on a need premise. Your most recent post has given me delay. For a certain something, on the off chance that for reasons unknown I will require exceptionally formed ear-thingies, who comprehends what he will charge for them under my "arrangement", likely the cost of the thingies in addition to an office call (the last at what cost????)

In this manner, at the present time, this is my arrangement: First off, I made an arrangement this evening with my "neighborhood" audi for a demo of the YES IX for this coming Monday morning. At that arrangement, I will let him know (he's the proprietor) of my web investigate on valuing and all, including this extraordinary webpage and string, asking him how his offer (at $1,700 more than on-line) can contend. I will get some information about the "imagine a scenario in which" of the formed ear thingies and some other unforseen future events.

I continue imagining that these gadgets are sophisticated to the point that, to keep them appropriately tuned, now and again the administrations of an all around prepared neighborhood proficient is an absolute necessity.

As a topper, I truly like this person and his demonstrable skill (as experienced in my underlying counsel). That is, it's reasonable to me that he appears to truly thinks about what he's accomplishing for individuals with hearing misfortune.

ccvickers Originally Posted by SidM

I have a story to pass on here that is suitable to ccvickers' inquiries with respect to purchasing the guides on the web and getting neighborhood tweaking administration. It's and unfurling adventure that just began two days prior when I initially went to a "nearby" audi for the underlying hearing test, and so forth.

SidM

SidM - Im looking forwad to perusing your story!

Neilk Thank you, Sid, what not. I myself looked on line yesterday to perceive what better estimating I could get for the YES IX's. I found that I could spare about, or just shy of $2,000 USD on them. Talked it over with my significant other yesterday evening. She said that yes, it is decent to spare that .. be that as it may, ... I'd need to include the cost of getting custom molds made, and transporting them forward and backward for any changes (which incorporates shipping supplies and the bother of getting them off and accepting them and protection to cover them should they be lost or left on the doorstep by the conveyance individual and vanish, and so on), and batteries (1 year free with neighborhood, no major ordeal, yet it includes), and lose the accommodation of simply halting in the nearby office and having that minor change made that would be annoying at me since it was excessively minor, making it impossible to warrant the bother of delivery them off. Ought to my audi encounter the misfortune while she is shipping them for any required repairs, it's her duty and her bother to manage following and supplanting them, not mine. They are touchy gadgets and it is silly to think they will never require production line benefit. Furthermore, much more so ... they are incredibly helping me to the extent playing out my work obligations, making life simpler and more wonderful for me ... is that not worth the cost? I couldn't genuinely answer NO ... so I am remaining with my nearby audi ... what's more, if my significant other's hairspray overcast covers the mic defenders, I can simply drop in the neighborhood office and have it settled in minutes with no bother included. So I might be paying all the more, however I am getting true serenity for that additional charge.

Saying this doesn't imply that I wasn't enticed however. I am the regular person, not rich or well off by any methods. Be that as it may, at 60+, I am at a point in life where I'm a slight piece more agreeable and have great charge cards

SidM Neilk, your string has been hugely useful to this amateur to HAs. I have a story to pass on here that is suitable to ccvickers' inquiries in regards to purchasing the guides on the web and getting neighborhood tweaking administration. It's and unfurling adventure that just began two days back when I initially went to a "neighborhood" audi for the underlying hearing test, and so on. I don't have sufficient energy to proceed with my continuous involvement with this time, be that as it may, needed to say something here to supplication with you, and the various notices, to keep this string alive - it has been the best string I have ever experienced, regarding any matter, on any discussion (and, I've had bunches of understanding on gatherings of different kinds). I'll return in a couple of hours, or, less, I trust.

Thanx, once more, all, for an extraordinary string, both to a great degree supportive and engaging.

(Have not yet had sufficient energy to do an individual profile.)

SidM

Neilk We simply had a little gathering session at my desk area. A young lady at work who I would never hear was remaining outside my desk area ... she has this little small young lady's voice. I could hear each word she said without stressing. I adore my YES IX's.

schultzan31 I requested the Audeo Yes IX's today!

They will be here in seven days. At the present time I'm attempting the exelia's, I'm keen on perceiving the amount of a distinction sound recuperate makes. I'm additionally truly amped up for these for restorative purposes (they are the littlest amplifiers I've ever possessed the capacity to wear).

Mindflux Alright, well I have my Phonak Audeo Yes V fitted. The Audi demonstrated to me the hearing bend we were attempting to accomplish and demonstrated to me the 'range analyzer' as the guide might have been 'tuning in'. It was pretty spot on for the bend we needed, yet MAN this thing is LOUD.

Things that include water (the sink, the can and so on) are all EXCRUCIATING to tune in to. Different things are a bit on the tinny side (I backpedal in on the 25th for re-modification). I don't know whether I've been feeling the loss of such a lot of hearing this time and it's quite recently LOUD to me or if it's excessively uproarious.

I think about whether I can have my audi turn on a logging instrument in the guide that he can read back after stretched out use to perceive how its performing?

joesc Originally Posted by ccvickers

Is the bluetooth flag continually ON with Audeo YES, or is the bluetooth connected with just when a gadget is combined and the iCom is being utilized?

The guides themselves don't utilize bluetooth. The iCom is the bluetooth interface. The guides speak with the iCom through a low level radio recurrence field. Bluetooth is excessively of a power hoard to be introduced in the guides themselves. That low level radio recurrence field is continually on, that is the reason when you switch a program on one guide, the other will consequently switch also.

Bluetooth usefulness on the iCom is always on when the iCom is fueled on also. You're simply not transmitting, you are getting until the point when an association ends up noticeably dynamic.

Mindflux Well I just got fitted with my Yes V. The audi didn't appear to be excessively acquainted with Phonak's product so we needed to play around to get things agreeable. My voice is presumably a hair louder than I'd like however I'll backpedal in one week from now for any changes. Things are likewise somewhat tinny, however the Audi assumes that is identified with Soundrecover.

The iCom is truly sweet. I tried it out and called family and could hear truly well!

The introduction cost I'm getting on the iCom + a solitary Yes V is quite recently difficult to leave behind.

Neilk Originally Posted by ccvickers

Is the bluetooth flag continually ON with Audeo YES, or is the bluetooth connected with just when a gadget is combined and the iCom is being utilized?

I don't know whether the guides themselves converse with the iCom through Blue-tooth or another remote convention, perhaps exclusive or FM, so I couldn't generally answer this. I would feel that maybe any of the guides that work with a Blue-tooth beneficiary may utilize their own particular convention or even FM to converse with the gadget. I do realize that the iCom works with FM transmitters and also Blue-tooth. You combine the gadget/recipient (iCom, Tek, Streamer) with the telephone or transmitter, not simply the guides. The beneficiary remains matched with the guides, obviously, they just talk when the recipient is fueled ON.

ccvickers Is the bluetooth flag always ON with Audeo YES, or is the bluetooth drawn in just when a gadget is combined and the iCom is being utilized?

Neilk Originally Posted by ccvickers

Well said Confused!!!

NeilK, I'm VERY appreciative for all the criticism and experience! Until discovering all the considerable input on this discussion, and especially your mindful understanding on your encounters with the Audeo YES, my examination had me gridlocked in an interminable cycle of investigation loss of motion! I believe I have a place to begin now with the Audeo YES!

I know befuddled will be attempting them as well. I trust both of you are as effective as me with them. I haven't heard this well, and appreciated such a great amount, in years. I discover them astounding.

ccvickers Originally Posted by Confused

I am so happy you are as yet monitoring the Forum despite the fact that you are exceptionally content with your YES's. It would be a disgrace to lose you!

Well said Confused!!!

NeilK, I'm VERY thankful for all the criticism and experience! Until discovering all the immense input on this gathering, and especially your keen understanding on your encounters with the Audeo YES, my exploration had me gridlocked in a perpetual cycle of investigation loss of motion! I believe I have a place to begin now with the Audeo YES!

Neilk Originally Posted by Confused

Hello Nielk, Has anybody at any point revealed to you that you are an entire and articulate screwball An extremely interesting nutcase!!!!

I am so happy you are as yet monitoring the Forum despite the fact that you are extremely content with your YES's. It would be a disgrace to lose you!

Hahaha, thank you Confused. Yes, I have been informed that before Keeps life fascinating. I'm a 60+ year old Disneyland devotee ... gotta bring existence with a grin and a snicker Thanks for bouncing in with your activity encounter. My rec center time is generally resistance preparing, so I don't get much development included. With respect to the curved, I take them off as I work up a significant sweat on that thing.

ccvickers, the collector can undoubtedly be swapped out with no change to the shell, other than correcting the programming to oblige the more grounded beneficiary. I'm certain you could discover somebody to do fittings/programming in the outside world. Regardless of the possibility that you got them at one audi and didn't care for them after a bit, I'm certain whatever other would happily acknowledge your cash on a for every visit premise to get the latest relevant point of interest. Truth be told, when I went to an alternate audi myself this time around, the audi would not like to offer me new guides, yet would make a free change of my old ones purchased from another audi nearby. I needed to push her to give me new, revealing to her that we had great protection now and that I truly felt that I required better for my own occupation execution and delight.

Confused Originally Posted by Neilk

You got me, one I can't reply. I am not that physically dynamic. Playing Wii tennis is about as wild as I get . In spite of the fact that I live in horse an area, I don't have one, nor ride them. Can't state I truly making the most of my 2 or 3 riding encounters in my lifetime, so I don't considerably trouble. In any case, I do recall the ricocheting here and there and all over and my butt descending on the seat as it was en route up, and do think I'd feel awkward with either a BTE or a CIC, most likely more so with a BTE as it might well bob off your ears (?). Be that as it may, I would believe that even a CIC would feel like it was being bumped out of my ears, if not really dropping out, and I'd presumably be driving it in always on the off chance that I got it in time. I'm certain the tennis woman is continually pushing hers in too whether vital or not.

Also, concerning hair brushing on it ... I have a full head of hair yet, however keep it sensibly short. So however it touches the guides, it doesn't generally brush against them as it doesn't move that much. I haven't seen any hair clamor from simply turning my head or endeavoring to squirm my ears ... which I can't accomplish for the life of me

Hello Nielk, Has anybody at any point disclosed to you that you are an entire and articulate screwball An exceptionally amusing nutcase!!!!

I am so happy you are as yet monitoring the Forum despite the fact that you are exceptionally content with your YES's. It would be a disgrace to lose you!

Confused Originally Posted by ccvickers

What is your supposition of the solace contrast between the CIC and the BTE? Do you ever encounter an inclination that the BTE may drop out or be lost when your physically dynamic? I ride stallions... do you think the BTE could be jostled free? Another woman on this discussion encounters an "inclination" that her BTE was shaking free when she played tennis and settled on an ITE. Her hair likewise rubbed on the BTE causing a consistent stirring sound.

I discover my BTE's a great deal more agreeable than my CIC's.

Concerning physical movement, I run, go to the rec center and do heart stimulating exercise and never have an issue with both of the guides. Mind you, there is not a similar measure of shaking that you would get while riding! Concerning tennis, the few times I have played, I again had no issues.

Hair stirring sound: I had that sound in my left guide yet when the audiologist balanced my settings, the irritating sound ceased.

xbulder Originally Posted by ccvickers

Squirm your ears? Ha! Thank your for attempting!

I have another inquiry that I haven't possessed the capacity to decypher from the Phonak writing. In the event that the clients hearing break down, can the Standard Receiver be basically traded for a Power Receiver and BTE modification, or does the BTE unit require substitution also?

I work in Iraq, however my house is Virgina. I'm just home 2 weeks like clockwork. Given the scope of the YESs fitting extents I'm mulling over purchasing the Audeo from PreciseHearing.com. I realize that it's ideal to buy the HAs from somebody neighborhood to me for benefit, however in my present circumstance there is nobody nearby. Additonally, PH is 1600$ less expensive than HearingPlanet, along these lines, in all probability significantly less expensive than the neighborhood allocator. Being in Iraq, I don't perceive any advantage to paying additional for a nearby container. Any musings on this??

Is it conceivable to discover benefit for on-line bought HAs a year or more not far off, to get it balanced? Does the audiologist need to give you duplicates of the hearing assessment?

it may be genuine shabby on the off chance that you get in Irak.... why dont you compose it specifically to the iraq merchant?

ccvickers Wiggle your ears? Ha! Thank your for attempting!

I have another inquiry that I haven't possessed the capacity to decypher from the Phonak writing. On the off chance that the clients hearing falls apart, can the Standard Receiver be just traded for a Power Receiver and BTE change, or does the BTE unit require substitution too?

I work in Iraq, however my house is Virgina. I'm just home 2 weeks at regular intervals. Given the scope of the YESs fitting reaches I'm mulling over purchasing the Audeo from PreciseHearing.com. I realize that it's ideal to buy the HAs from somebody neighborhood to me for benefit, however in my present circumstance there is nobody nearby. Additonally, PH is 1600$ less expensive than HearingPlanet, subsequently, undoubtedly much less expensive than the nearby allocator. Being in Iraq, I don't perceive any advantage to paying additional for a neighborhood container. Any considerations on this??

Is it conceivable to discover benefit for on-line acquired HAs a year or more not far off, to get it balanced? Does the audiologist need to give you duplicates of the hearing assessment?

Neilk Originally Posted by ccvickers

What is your sentiment of the solace contrast between the CIC and the BTE? Do you ever encounter an inclination that the BTE may drop out or be lost when your physically dynamic? I ride stallions... do you think the BTE could be shook free? Another woman on this discussion encounters an "inclination" that her BTE was bumping free when she played tennis and decided on an ITE. Her hair additionally rubbed on the BTE causing a consistent stirring sound.

You got me, one I can't reply. I am not that physically dynamic. Playing Wii tennis is about as wild as I get . In spite of the fact that I live in horse an area, I don't have one, nor ride them. Can't state I truly making the most of my 2 or 3 riding encounters in my lifetime, so I don't much trouble. In any case, I do recall the bobbing all over and all over and my butt descending on the seat as it was en route up, and do think I'd feel awkward with either a BTE or a CIC, most likely more so with a BTE as it might well ricochet off your ears (?). Yet, I would imagine that even a CIC would feel like it was being jostled out of my ears, if not really dropping out, and I'd presumably be driving it in continually on the off chance that I got it in time. I'm certain the tennis woman is continually pushing hers in also whether important or not.

Furthermore, with respect to hair brushing on it ... I have a full head of hair yet, however keep it sensibly short. So however it touches the guides, it doesn't generally brush against them as it doesn't move that much. I haven't seen any hair commotion from simply turning my head or endeavoring to squirm my ears ... which I can't accomplish for the life of me

Mindflux Originally Posted by Neilk

Way off the mark. CIC's have everything in the guide. That implies in a great deal less space you are pressing in practically as much hardware. Nearly as much since you need to forget a few components as there is insufficient room. Likewise, you are putting those gadgets in an awful place, a clammy hot place, inside the ear. As the shell is such a great amount of littler, there is likewise a littler battery and less power accessible. CIC's accordingly are restricted in how much misfortune they can recuperate. On the off chance that you're hearing misfortune is extreme or more terrible, CIC's won't cover your scope of misfortune. My past CIC's were that way, just 3 years of age, however they didn't generally have enough energy to suit my serious to significant misfortune. Thus, my oath acknowledgment was thumped path down. Better believe it beyond any doubt, everything was still opened up, amplified. In any case, hold an amplifying glass somewhat too far away and how does what you are taking a gander at show up? Fluffy. The same applies to over intensifying sounds, they get jumbled sounding, a long way from clear. CIC's and BTE with a custom form are no where's near being the same.

Well I was talking simply from a style point of view. I am intensely mindful of how an amplifier looks on me and would prefer not to make a special effort to indicate any additional consideration my ears. Simply the way I am.

Will attempt the Audeo with an arch first and go from that point.

ccvickers What is your sentiment of the solace contrast between the CIC and the BTE? Do you ever encounter an inclination that the BTE may drop out or be lost when your physically dynamic? I ride stallions... do you think the BTE could be bumped free? Another woman on this gathering encounters an "inclination" that her BTE was bumping free when she played tennis and selected an ITE. Her hair likewise rubbed on the BTE causing a steady stirring sound.

Neilk Originally Posted by Mindflux

So is there any good reason why you wouldn't simply utilize CIC's by then? That is practically similar to having a CIC and a BTE. Appears excessive?

Way off the mark. CIC's have everything in the guide. That implies in a great deal less space you are pressing in nearly as much gadgets. Nearly as much since you need to forget a few elements as there is insufficient room. Additionally, you are putting those hardware in an awful place, a sodden hot place, inside the ear. As the shell is such a great amount of littler, there is likewise a littler battery and less power accessible. CIC's thus are restricted in how much misfortune they can recoup. In the event that you're hearing misfortune is extreme or more regrettable, CIC's won't cover your scope of misfortune. My past CIC's were that way, just 3 years of age, yet they didn't generally have enough energy to suit my serious to significant misfortune. Subsequently, my oath acknowledgment was thumped route down. Definitely beyond any doubt, everything was still enhanced, amplified. Be that as it may, hold an amplifying glass marginally too far away and how does what you are taking a gander at show up? Fluffy. The same applies to over opening up sounds, they get tangled sounding, a long way from clear. CIC's and BTE with a custom shape are no where's near being the same.

Mindflux Originally Posted by Neilk

Yes, the criticism is the shrieking. What's more, for me, that was settled with full estimated custom molds from Westone. These take after CIC's with the small angling line to yank them out, and they have a pocket made particularly to the extent of the beneficiary (speaker). The recipient is set into the form and the shape set in your ear with the wire encouraging out to the shell. By and large, it is practically imperceptible.

So is there any good reason why you wouldn't simply utilize CIC's by then? That is practically similar to having a CIC and a BTE. Appears excessive?

Neilk Originally Posted by ccvickers

I'm right now investigating Bluetooth

The iCom leaflet says the iCom can be at the same time matched to a maximum of 8 gadgets. Have you matched different gadgets all the while? Provided that this is true, does this component function admirably?

On the off chance that a bluetooth empowering gadget (a Jabra) is connected to a stero or TV, can other individuals still tune in to the stereo or TV as they ordinarily would? (As when you connect earphones to, the sound is quieted for every other person?)

In choosing periferal gadgets... do you concider the Bluetooth 2.0 or the A2DP? I'm not versed in remote innovation - I figure I'm saking what the "key" is to choosing a compatable gadget to use with the iCom?

You can match the iCom to various Blue-tooth telephones, yet just be "associated" to each one in turn. For instance, I am "Matched" to both the Jabra on my work area telephone and my LG PDA. In any case, I can just have one "Associated" at once. It doesn't lose the "blending" so you don't need to experience the "disclosure" stage over and over. Simply controlling erratic and the other on "associates" them so you can answer or start calls.

You can likewise combine to transmitters, for example, the Blue-tooth transmitter that you would associate with a TV or stereo. I don't have one of these yet. For this situation, you would have both one mobile phone empowered or associated and in addition the transmitter. Cell calls are dealt with uniquely in contrast to "earphone" associations. In the event that you are sitting in front of the TV utilizing the Blue-tooth and get a Blue-tooth telephone call, the telephone call outweighs everything else.

On the off chance that you connect the transmitter to the earphone jack, at that point just you will have the capacity to tune in. That is an element of the earphone jack, not an impediment of the transmitter. However, in the event that you connect it to the stereo out jacks on a gadget that backings various yields, for example, a home theater collector, at that point it would have no impact on any other individual viewing. The iCom does not accompany a transmitter as the Tek does. In any case, the transmitter that accompanies the Tek, or the ha's themselves, did not give great sound quality by any stretch of the imagination. I utilize the hard wire from the iCom to my Denon recipient when my significant other is resting as I need the speaker sound yield cut off. It sounds incredible. On the off chance that I connected it to a stereo jack on the back of the Denon, I would be influenced by the volume control on the Denon, however I could likewise make alterations utilizing the myPilot remote. So if my significant other made the TV too low or too noisy for me, I could modify my own volume into my ears with the myPilot.

Choosing gadgets to utilize, you would choose by the upheld convention, for example, the A2DP as the gadget must help an indistinguishable convention from the iCom. Adaptations are typically in reverse perfect, however not generally. So BT1.0 and BT 2.0 would regularly work with each other with the higher form supporting or throwing in the towel to the lower variant. In any case, you would in any case need to test them together to guarantee similarity. What's more, the terrible part is that no maker bolsters their items use with another producer. When I was doing equipment technical support, I'd illuminate the client that we didn't bolster the other item however that I would attempt to help them notwithstanding, however I couldn't ensure achievement. Most help won't do that even, which is very irritating. They could at any rate stroll through the essential setup ventures to guarantee that you are doing things effectively to the extent their gadget goes. Organizations would prefer not to go the additional cost however, and furthermore feel that puts them at hazard that possibly their item is to blame.

ccvickers I'm at present looking into Bluetooth

The iCom leaflet says the iCom can be all the while combined to a maximum of 8 gadgets. Have you combined numerous gadgets at the same time? Assuming this is the case, does this component function admirably?

In the event that a bluetooth empowering gadget (a Jabra) is connected to a stero or TV, can other individuals still tune in to the stereo or TV as they ordinarily would? (As when you connect earphones to, the sound is quieted for every other person?)

In choosing periferal gadgets... do you concider the Bluetooth 2.0 or the A2DP? I'm not versed in remote innovation - I figure I'm saking what the "key" is to choosing a compatable gadget to use with the iCom?

Neilk Originally Posted by jay_man2

A debt of gratitude is in order for the clarification. Love the contraptions!

You're very welcome ... furthermore, I should express that those measurements are guesstimates as the Jabra is at my office ... I'm at home

jay_man2 Originally Posted by Neilk

... Obviously, I am a nerd on the most fundamental level ... and also by calling, so adore the nerd toys.

A debt of gratitude is in order for the clarification. Love the contraptions!

Neilk Originally Posted by jay_man2

Neilk, in the event that you clarified your setup with bluetooth, I apologize for my disarray and requesting that you do it once more. If it's not too much trouble clarify the Jabra, and why it's in the blend. I'd feel that you'd simply combine your cellphone with the iCom and that's all there is to it. Why still have the Jabra?

Jay_man, precisely, as hippeaux expressed. The Jabra A7010 cost me just shy of $100 USD, and is a little plastic bar around 8 inches long by 2 inches wide by 3/4 inch high. Any landline telephone with a module handset, it MUST be module style, not hard wired, can be transformed into a Blue-tooth telephone by connecting the Jabra to the handset jack on the telephone base, the handset into the Jabra, and the Jabra into a divider outlet. The Blue-tooth collector, for example, the Tek or the Streamer, or the iCom as for my situation, sets with the Jabra. The iCom is a littler gadget and works most magnificently simply sticking around your neck. I do technical support on the telephone for my product organization's customers and spend a decent bit of my day on telephone calls. I should have the capacity to unmistakably comprehend what my customer is stating so I can settle their issues. The Jabra and the iCom work consummately pair enabling this to happen.

When I get the opportunity to work, I just handicap Blue-tooth on my mobile phone. The Jabra consequently gets the iCom and they are associated. When I leave work I simply pull the fitting on the Jabra and empower Blue-tooth on the cell. Everything remains matched constantly, turning one off and the other one consequently interfaces them together as they are as of now combined. So there is no bother included. I cherish it. Obviously, I am a geek on a basic level ... and in addition by calling, so adore the nerd toys.

Neilk Originally Posted by Mindflux

So for you the criticism was what? The shrieking I'm encountering?

Yes, the criticism is the shrieking. Also, for me, that was settled with full measured custom molds from Westone. These look like CIC's with the small angling line to yank them out, and they have a pocket made particularly to the measure of the beneficiary (speaker). The recipient is set into the form and the shape put in your ear with the wire nourishing out to the shell. In general, it is practically imperceptible.

Mindflux Originally Posted by Neilk

I think the xShell originates from Phonak, however don't know. I realize that the custom form I have originates from Westone and is actually specially crafted. It is much the same as my old CIC's yet with a pocket that the collector fits into. I had issues with the different vaults I attempted, single, twofold, open, shut, whatever ... my audi attempted every one and couldn't dispose of the input ... so she requested the custom for me with the Pure's, and quite recently stuck to this same pattern on the YES without attempting the others.

So for you the criticism was what? The shrieking I'm encountering?

jay_man2 Originally Posted by hippeaux

Jay,

The Jabra that Neil is alluding to is really a gadget that joins to a consistent landline telephone, in this manner giving it Bluetooth capacity. Extremely pleasant and advantageous.

Ok, bodes well at this point.

hippeaux Jay,

The Jabra that Neil is alluding to is really a gadget that connects to a standard landline telephone, in this manner giving it Bluetooth ability. Extremely pleasant and advantageous.

jay_man2 Neilk, in the event that you clarified your setup with bluetooth, I apologize for my perplexity and requesting that you do it once more. It would be ideal if you clarify the Jabra, and why it's in the blend. I'd surmise that you'd simply combine your cellphone with the iCom and that's all there is to it. Why still have the Jabra?

Neilk Originally Posted by ccvickers

What causes the impediment? You'd specified that you encountered it with the Pure's. I presently have CICs that I decline to wear in light of the fact that the impediment is so terrible it confounds and dizzies me!! Totally unbareable! It's more awful than having both ears loaded with water by a wide margin! The audi that offered them to me said it was ordinary and I simply expected to get accustomed to it. I cried all the time since I was so overpowered with the impediment - my mind just proved unable "register" my voice combined with the various sounds. I was trusting that a vault design or some likeness thereof would work better. I wear earplugs (resembles a vault style) and experience just slight impediment - extremely tollerable. Do other individuals encounter impediment to this degree??

Re your telephone involvement... holding the telephone higher. I figure that is on the grounds that the BTE display gets the sound through the hued case BTE? I can't utilize any remote tech in the office that I work. I figure that will simply be an expectation to absorb information.

For the iCom around your neck... Where is your telephone? You talk and the iCom grabs your voice? The cord must be around your neck to get both ears to work in a state of harmony? Am I seeing effectively what little I've perused about iCom?

Since you've had your volumn remote for some time - do despite everything you utilize it frequently? Would it be able to snare on a key chain?

much obliged!

I truly have no clue what causes the impediment, yet it occurred with the bigger vent gaps, and does not occur with the littler vent gaps with custom molds made by a similar organization.

For the iCom around my neck, the Jabra is around my work area and could be a couple of feet away. My wireless is on my belt, or even on the kitchen counter while I'm on the sofa. What's more, yes, it improves when wearing the cord around my neck than making them lie close-by. The mics work with it staying nearby my neck, the Tek I needed to hold directly before my mouth inside 2 - 3 creeps to have the capacity to be heard on the flip side with the Jabra, however not as terrible with the cell which enabled it to be sticking around my neck. The iCom works with either hanging free.

The volume remote, myPilot, is littler than the Tek, and does not have a cord. It is greater than keychain measure however, and does not have a circle or hook to hang it by.

ccvickers What causes the impediment? You'd said that you encountered it with the Pure's. I at present have CICs that I decline to wear on the grounds that the impediment is so awful it befuddles and dizzies me!! Totally unbareable! It's more terrible than having both ears loaded with water by a long shot! The audi that offered them to me said it was ordinary and I simply expected to get accustomed to it. I cried all the time since I was so overpowered with the impediment - my cerebrum just proved unable "register" my voice combined with the various sounds. I was trusting that a vault design or the like would work better. I wear earplugs (resembles an arch style) and experience just slight impediment - extremely tollerable. Do other individuals encounter impediment to this degree??

Re your telephone involvement... holding the telephone higher. I figure that is on account of the BTE demonstrate gets the sound through the shaded case BTE? I can't utilize any remote tech in the office that I work. I figure that will simply be an expectation to learn and adapt.

For the iCom around your neck... Where is your telephone? You talk and the iCom grabs your voice? The cord must be around your neck to get both ears to work in a state of harmony? Am I seeing accurately what little I've perused about iCom?

Since you've had your volumn remote for some time - do regardless you utilize it frequently? Would it be able to snare on a key chain?

much appreciated!

Neilk Originally Posted by Mindflux

I've been wearing this Oticon with a power arch while I sit tight for the Phonak to arrive. This is my medical aid with an arch, I've generally worn a CIC some time recently.

I'm experiencing difficulty where the arch is either too far in my ear giving me a connected feeling or just to my ear enough to make the beneficiary shriek...

I'm trusting I don't have this issue with the Phonak or I may need to go to a custom form (I figure that is the xShell?).

I think the xShell originates from Phonak, yet don't know. I realize that the custom shape I have originates from Westone and is actually uniquely crafted. It is much the same as my old CIC's however with a pocket that the beneficiary fits into. I had issues with the different vaults I attempted, single, twofold, open, shut, whatever ... my audi attempted every one and couldn't dispose of the input ... so she requested the custom for me with the Pure's, and quite recently stuck to this same pattern on the YES without attempting the others.

Mindflux I've been wearing this Oticon with a power vault while I sit tight for the Phonak to arrive. This is my emergency treatment with a vault, I've generally worn a CIC some time recently.

I'm experiencing difficulty where the vault is either too far in my ear giving me a connected feeling or just to my ear enough to make the collector shriek...

I'm trusting I don't have this issue with the Phonak or I may need to go to a custom shape (I figure that is the xShell?).

Neilk Originally Posted by ccvickers

A couple of questions....

Are the YES alright with glasses/shades?

I have observed them to be genuinely alright with my shades driving, and my perusing glasses when on the PC. I anticipate that them will show signs of improvement when I get the more extended wires my audi requested to make them ride somewhat additionally down and back on my ears. Be that as it may, they are little and glasses appear to fit with no issue amongst them and my head as it is even. Be that as it may, I have not encountered a solace issue as it is currently.

Initially Posted by ccvickers

How do the YES perform while utilizing a phone w/out the iCom?

I have utilized them a couple of times without the iCom and they worked fine and dandy. At initially, I couldn't hear at all when I got gotten without the iCom. However, at that point I rehearsed when I wasn't generally on a call and found that I simply needed to hold the telephone only a bit higher, locate the sweet spot, and they were okay. The same for my office telephone which has the Jabra A7010 Blue-tooth connector. With the iCom, they are phenomenal, clear and noisy ideal in my ears and I can in any case hear outside sounds, critical to me as my associates might be tossing a few hints my direction in the event that they hear a recognizable issue, or attempting to disclose to me its something they were chipping away at. With simply the phone handset, once more, finding the sweet spot to hold it at and I can hear pretty acceptably. I do lean toward utilizing the iCom in both circumstances as it is incredible.

Initially Posted by ccvickers

Do the YESs truly take out (orgreatly lessen) disturbing foundation commotion, for example, an auto fan, as the Phonak advertisement claims?

With the Siemens Pure's, I heard a wide range of clamor when driving, I'm certain more than the ordinary individual listens. It was out and out noisy and I experienced considerable difficulties what my better half was stating. With the YES, it is vastly improved, 95% better. I do hear a few commotions, even the turn flag ticking, which I didn't hear with the Pure's over alternate clamors. Yet, they are not tyrannical, more "typical" sounding, for absence of a superior portrayal. I know, what hoh individual comprehends what "typical sounding" is

Initially Posted by ccvickers

How well do your YESs react to "impact" or sudden commotions? Will they kill/down before the sound damages your ears?

I haven't been in this kind of circumstance truly, so couldn't answer ... unless a loud eatery qualifies with the clanking of dishes ... which I didn't see when in two as of late. Gee ... so perhaps they are doing their occupation.

Initially Posted by ccvickers

Why did you choose the shell collector more than one of the arch styles?

When I trialed the Pure's, my audi couldn't dispose of the input when utilizing typical arches. So she requested the custom molds and they settled the issue. When I chose to trial the YES, she as of now had the molds, knew I had an issue with arches, so just felt free to requested the custom molds to run with these. Presently, something else is that she went ideal to the "power" recipients because of my extreme to significant (at high freqs) misfortune. The Power CRT (Canal Receiver Technology, Phonak for RITE or RIC) fitting uses just Closed Dome, Power Dome, or xShell tips. I had as of now been formed for the traditions.

Initially Posted by ccvickers

Much obliged to you such a great amount for your posts along these lines far!!!! They have been exceptionally educational and have helped me a great deal!

Much thanks to you. I'm happy my posting has been useful. Once more, I do stretch that I don't work for nor get any rewards for giving my own particular feelings on these ... also, they are my own particular suppositions. Others may have diverse encounters relying upon their misfortune, ear shape, levels of solace, their elucidations of what they like, and their uniqueness. In any case, I can reveal to you that I totally LOVE the YES. I've been going YES!!! as far back as getting them

ccvickers A few questions....

Are the YES alright with glasses/shades?

How do the YES perform while utilizing a mobile phone w/out the iCom?

Do the YESs truly dispense with (orgreatly diminish) aggravating foundation clamor, for example, an auto fan, as the Phonak advertisement claims?

How well do your YESs react to "impact" or sudden clamors? Will they kill/down before the sound damages your ears?

Why did you choose the shell reciever more than one of the arch styles?

Much obliged to you such a great amount for your posts in this way far!!!! They have been exceptionally enlightening and have helped me a ton!

Neilk Originally Posted by Mindflux

My Audi thinks the Oticon has a short. It'll work until the point when he crushes one side of the portable amplifier and it goes out. He even made them work and moved it from one hand to the next to hand it to me and it backpedaled out.

My first Oticon the mic or speaker lost the greater part of it's energy, it's delicate at this point.

The Phonak, my Audi says has a power unit in the ear, is that the "Custom" you are examining?

Yes, RITE = Receiver (speaker) In The Ear. Phonak calls it by an alternate name which I can never discover, however it implies the same. The recipient or speaker is in the ear on the finish of a thin wire that is for all intents and purposes imperceptible.

Mindflux My Audi thinks the Oticon has a short. It'll work until the point when he crushes one side of the portable amplifier and it goes out. He even made them work and moved it from one hand to the next to hand it to me and it backpedaled out.

My first Oticon the mic or speaker lost the greater part of it's energy, it's delicate at this point.

The Phonak, my Audi says has a power unit in the ear, is that the "Ceremony" you are talking about?

Neilk Originally Posted by Mindflux

This will be my first Phonak. I'm averaging something like 3 years life on my Oticon CIC's.. so it's an ideal opportunity to attempt another person.

My current Oticon CIC has a short in it, yahoo.

I am changing from Phonak Extra CIC's which are a little more than 3 years of age. I began having issues with them removing. The issue was settled by the utilization of the Dry and Store to store and dry the guides each night. When I began utilizing that the removing ceased. Be that as it may, my listening ability has become more terrible after some time, my understanding dropping hopelessly. My audi would not like to offer me new guides, I advised her NO, I need them, require them. She said that the Extras were quite very much maximized, which wasn't improving the situation. So I went to the BTE with RITE for the expanded power. What a decision, when your supervisor remarks on how much better your listening ability is by all accounts to him ... that is stating a great deal. What's more, that is in the wake of trialing a fresh out of the box new combine of the Siemens Pure 500 even. Another associate said he needed to tap me on the shoulder to stand out enough to be noticed quite recently the prior week with the Pure's, a few days ago I heard him and addressed him from the following work area over without his notwithstanding raising his voice.

Mindflux Originally Posted by Neilk

I will restlessly be anticipating your impressions of them. I completely adore mine.

This will be my first Phonak. I'm averaging something like 3 years life on my Oticon CIC's.. so it's a great opportunity to attempt another person.

My current Oticon CIC has a short in it, yippee.

Neilk Originally Posted by Mindflux

I am being fitted for one of these on Tueday. Will report back. Not certain which display yet but rather my Audiologist said they had a promo cost from Phonak. I'll be getting the iCom also.

I will restlessly be anticipating your impressions of them. I totally cherish mine.

Mindflux I am being fitted for one of these on Tueday. Will report back. Not certain which demonstrate yet but rather my Audiologist said they had a promo cost from Phonak. I'll be getting the iCom also.

Neilk Personally, I adore the iCom as it is littler than a remote sticking around your neck. I haven't encountered the Streamer, yet have attempted the Siemens Tek. The iCom is littler and lighter, has a superior arrangement of mics, I don't need to hold it before my mouth as I did with the Tek, when on a call. Individuals reveal to me I'm superbly evident, and I can hear then as clear as anyone might imagine. It is all around much superior to the Tek in feel and execution.

xbulder Originally Posted by islanderbaw

I am occupied with looking at the Oticon Dual Connect and Streamer for bluetooth network and the Phonak Audeo Yes with iCom. Specifically the streamer versus the iCom gadgets.

I have utilized the Streamer however was advised to consider the iCom; I was interested about the distinction in the innovations being the Streamer is a solitary gadget that controls bluetooth, gushing, volume, programs and with the iCom you require a moment gadget for controlling volume and projects.

Any musings you may have or help with respect to the iCom would be valued.

thx

essentially they do a similar thing... a few people like the sound of the audeo some the duals, you should attempt them both....

joesc I've utilized the iCom with the Exelia for more than 6 months now. It's a straightforward gadget, with only a major catch on it. A few people contrast it with the star trek communicator (just not as savvy or cool looking ). It does the employment for associating with bluetooth gadgets, however that is whatever it does. On the off chance that you habitually change the volume or projects on your guides and you would prefer not to do it on the guide (or can't), at that point you require the myPilot. Which is simply one more thing to bear. Since I can change those things on my guide, I don't convey the myPilot much.

islanderbaw Originally Posted by Popeye714

Have fit various Audeo Yes units. Magnificent items and much better (value for your money) at the essential and midrange levels than the more established Audeo line.

Allan

I am keen on contrasting the Oticon Dual Connect and Streamer for bluetooth network and the Phonak Audeo Yes with iCom. Specifically the streamer versus the iCom gadgets.

I have utilized the Streamer yet was advised to consider the iCom; I was interested about the distinction in the advances being the Streamer is a solitary gadget that controls bluetooth, gushing, volume, programs and with the iCom you require a moment gadget for controlling volume and projects.

Any considerations you may have or help with respect to the iCom would be valued.

thx

Popeye714 Have fit various Audeo Yes units. Magnificent items and much better (value for your money) at the essential and midrange levels than the more established Audeo line.

Allan

paul10r Neilk, posting your audiogram in your profile is an incredible thought. I will stick to this same pattern.

Neilk Originally Posted by paul10r

Neilk, have you at any point posted your audiogram on the discussion? Your audiogram results may be useful to other people who are thinking about investigating this guide.

Paul, My audiogram is in my profile. Simply tap on my name before any post and select to see my Profile or Public Profile ... whichever it is. You will see my audiogram recorded. Fill me in as to whether that game plan didn't work. I would include it as my sig, however assumed that would take up a considerable measure of superfluous space on the board.

paul10r Neilk, have you at any point posted your audiogram on the discussion? Your audiogram results may be useful to other people who are thinking about investigating this guide.

Neilk Another refresh ... the iCom works impeccably with the Jabra A7010. It sounds superior to the Tek did. I can hear the sounds around me still, the mics are not closed down. Be that as it may, the telephone call resembles at the focal point of things, it is the most recognizable sound, crisp and clean.

Another thing, it was a companion's birthday, so my better half and I took her to her preferred eatery the previous evening. She picked Ruby's Diner, a ground sirloin sandwich eatery with super great burgers. At any rate, we were sitting at the table and I was conversing with our companion over the table. My better half said "Hold up a moment!!! You can hear her???" I could, and was holding a discussion in a loud eatery. This is a companion who I would never comprehend in a tranquil room even without saying "huh?" 20 times each moment. My significant other even says she mutters and talks too quick and too low. I could hear her!!! In our 6 or so years of kinship with this neighbor ... I would never hear her ... until the point that I got these YES!

Confused I LOVE THESE!!!

Farewell Pures

Ahmen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Confused [QUOTE=MarvinMartian]

Initially Posted by Neilk

Avoid the xxxxxxx!

Shhhhhhhh! I disclosed to you I would be viewing!

Neilk OK, the decision is in. The Phonak Audeo - YES IX's are in my ears. The iCom is connected to my PC speaker and the music sounds extraordinary in my ears ... much superior to anything it did in the Tek.

Along these lines, got fitted the previous evening and I totally LOVE the YES. Their name is suitable ... I've been stating YES YES!!!!! since putting them on. They are a great deal more full-bodied sound than the Siemens Pure 500's. The Pure's were exceptionally empty sounding, tinny even. These YES have extraordinary sound, a great deal more bass, more regular to me ... or if nothing else a great deal more wonderful.

My audi continued remarking about the detriment of carrying two things with the YES rather than the "only one" with the Siemens. Remember this is through HearX, which Siemens appears to have loads of enthusiasm for. Alright, the Siemens Tek is greater, clunkier, heavier. In spite of the fact that I like the various catches for simplicity of choosing programs at a single tick ... it swings like a pendulum when stuck around your neck and you are strolling. What's more, to accept a call, you need to take a gander at it to locate the green catch. The iCom, then again, is slimmer, substantially littler than the Tek, hangs compliment around your neck. It doesn't do the pendulum swing, and can be worn under your garments without somebody asking what that irregularity on your chest is. The iCom has much better solid on the mobile phone and in addition when tuning in to music by means of the PC association. It just has one major catch, simple to discover and push to acknowledge or dismiss a phone call. The Tek came with a bluetooth transmitter to interface with your TV or stereo, the iCom does not. Be that as it may, the iCom supports one in the event that you wish to get one, and it additionally underpins FM in the event that you wish to go that way or as of now have it. I don't have the FM transmitter and don't expect to get one as of now. For late night or early morning TV or PS3, while my better half is resting, I can utilize my Bose headset ... or, on the other hand, and I haven't attempted this yet can envision it would work ... simply plug the long electrical line for the headset into the iCom. In spite of the fact that in case will get out the 25 foot augmentation, may very well also utilize the Bose for their prevalent sound ... better than whatever else I've ever attempted.

The iPilot has a great deal more control than the Tek, another enormous in addition to. Yes, you need to utilize a menu framework. Yet, the lcd multicolor screen is clear as anyone might imagine. Where the Tek had just 5 volume positions, the iPilot has 10 above and 10 beneath the inside solace level which is set for your default sound level. There is no treble change, yet I'm finding the sound quality itself is such a great amount of better with the YES and don't miss the treble change by any means. Additionally, the iPilot gives you a chance to modify both sides all the while, or exclusively. So in the event that you need one side to be somewhat louder, you can do as such. In any case, with the IX rendition, you likewise have Sound Zooming. Zoom enables you to choose which heading the mics should upgrade the most. It is very flawless, and works great, enabling you to set the sound stage to be the individual straightforwardly before you, or to the side when driving, and so forth. The iPilot is likewise somewhat littler than the Tek, and compliment. So it fits in your pocket less demanding. It has room schedule-wise and date shown on the screen, and even has a wake up timer you can set to send an arrangement of tones into your guides ... how cool

I won't have the capacity to test the iCom with the Jabra A7010 bluetooth connector until the point that I backpedal to work Monday, no surge on my benefit for that. I am foreseeing that it will fill in also, if not superior to the Tek which I need to hold straightforwardly before my mouth for the Jabra. One other thing is that the YES don't have any control catch on them. The default program is Automatic. Utilizing the remote, iPilot, you can change the projects between Speech in Noise, Speech in Comfort, and Music. Programmed should naturally switch between varieties of these projects relying upon the conditions. At this moment, the remote is showing "iCom Streaming", and I can even now hear different sounds in the room just as it were normal. Alright ... I LOVE THESE!!!

Farewell Pures

MarvinMartian [QUOTE=Neilk]

Initially Posted by Confused

You can be striking ... however, I wasn't I didn't ask, and she didn't offer. My Pure 500's with the Tek came to US $5,500. My audi is putting forth these to me to trial as she realizes that I am scrutinizing the Pure's and had asked her "How would I know these are the best unless I do have a go at something else." She said another customer had attempted the Exelia's and didn't care for them since it implied bearing two gadgets rather than only one. That didn't sound good to me, so when I took the Pure's in yesterday to have a lost program returned (?), I specified these and asked "Would we be able to go for them?" She made a telephone call and said they might be in ideally next Friday, which I as of now had set as a subsequent arrangement on the Pure's.

My significant other's superb medical coverage covers 90% of listening device costs up to their paying $5,000 once like clockwork, remotes, and so on not secured. This just began a year ago really, the last ones they gave us like $500 I think it was against the roughly $4,000 expense. So when I asked how this will function, she said that I will keep both so would trial be able to them beside each other ... which I completely cherish. I won't be stating "How did those sound once more?" as I can simply switch forward and backward and tune in. She said the protection will be connected to whichever I keep. I had as of now demonstrated that on account of the protection, I wouldn't fret as much paying that sum over. In any case, I didn't ask and she didn't say ... so I'm expecting inside reason or the same as the Pure's.

Avoid the Siemens! I've had 10 years of Siemens with only issues and consistent repairs. It's just since I discovered this gathering I've figured out the amount I've been exploited!

Neilk [QUOTE=jem16]

Initially Posted by Confused

Reasonable Hearing have them recorded at £1600 for the Yes 9, £1450 for the Yes 5 and £1250 for the Yes 3.

Which turns out to 1600 British pounds = 2,280.96 U.S. dollars which is a quite close add up to that I paid for the Pure 500's. $2,500 each.

I am getting them at a nearby HearX which is just 10 minutes from home and has an authorized audiologist instead of a portable amplifier container. So I do hope to pay a slight premium for her instruction, permit, and mastery ... also, trust she's justified, despite all the trouble. The workplace is more advantageous, in spite of the fact that it experiences the lousy hours of business that all amplifier organizations experience the ill effects of. They make it troublesome for a working individual to get in without losing time from work. I have not discovered anything nearby to me or my business that has better hours. My past match were acquired from an authorized gadget, not audiologist who was great ... in any case, passed away. His substitution doesn't inspire me very to such an extent. HearX specializes in, push, Siemens, which I am not especially inspired with as of now.

Neilk [QUOTE=Confused]

Initially Posted by Neilk

Greetings Neilk,

Saw your reaction in the other string. I am anticipating hearing about your encounters.

Would i be able to be intense and approach the amount they are charging for the guides? I have not possessed the capacity to discover any quotes whatsoever on the web.

You can be striking ... in any case, I wasn't I didn't ask, and she didn't offer. My Pure 500's with the Tek came to US $5,500. My audi is putting forth these to me to trial as she realizes that I am scrutinizing the Pure's and had asked her "How would I know these are the best unless I do have a go at something else." She said another customer had attempted the Exelia's and didn't care for them since it implied bearing two gadgets rather than only one. That didn't sound good to me, so when I took the Pure's in yesterday to have a lost program returned (?), I specified these and asked "Would we be able to go for them?" She made a telephone call and said they might be in ideally next Friday, which I as of now had set as a subsequent arrangement on the Pure's.

My significant other's magnificent medical coverage covers 90% of portable hearing assistant expenses up to their paying $5,000 once like clockwork, remotes, and so forth not secured. This just began a year ago really, the last ones they gave us like $500 I think it was against the roughly $4,000 expense. So when I asked how this will function, she said that I will keep both so would trial be able to them by each other ... which I completely adore. I won't be stating "How did those sound once more?" as I can simply switch forward and backward and tune in. She said the protection will be connected to whichever I keep. I had as of now showed that because of the protection, I wouldn't fret as much paying that sum over. Be that as it may, I didn't ask and she didn't say ... so I'm expecting inside reason or the same as the Pure's.

jem16 Originally Posted by Confused

Hey Neilk,

Saw your reaction in the other string. I am anticipating hearing about your encounters.

Would i be able to be striking and approach the amount they are charging for the guides? I have not possessed the capacity to discover any quotes whatsoever on the web.

Moderate Hearing have them recorded at

Confused [QUOTE=Neilk]

Hello Neilk,

Saw your reaction in the other string. I am anticipating hearing about your encounters.

Would i be able to be strong and approach the amount they are charging for the guides? I have not possessed the capacity to discover any quotes whatsoever on the web.

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