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New Siemens Pure 7BX

2015-01-10 20:23:00 in Signia (Formerly Siemens) by  Demiles
Just five days into my trial on these and I am genuinely flabbergasted! I've been in each circumstance that gave me issues earlier and they have performed over my desires. The widespread program effortlessly handles foundation clamor in these troublesome circumstances including a swarmed cafeteria for lunch, discussions in the auto while I'm driving, a swarmed birthday party for my niece. The sound is exceptionally fresh and clear understanding discourse on TV is simple now with no bending. I'm utilizing only two projects at the present time the widespread and a music program she setup for me while driving in my uproarious work truck. The music program encourages me here the music while driving, the widespread botches up the sound by initiating the commotion lessening. In my own truck with a top of the line post-retail stereo the music sounds unbelievable with the all inclusive program yet the ride is considerably calmer.

My audiologist has made a decent showing with regards to designing these things and we've quite recently started. She took genuine ear estimations a few times and made modifications. Amid the fitting she secured every one of the nuts and bolts of operation, introducing, and cleaning. She exhibited some the elements of Binax and had me introduce the touch control application for my iPhone. Which by the way works awesome. I didn't purchase the Easytek since I truly don't utilize any of its elements. I don't chat on the telephone in particular and when I tune in to music I want to fill the entire stay with it, not slap on an arrangement of earphones. The following arrangement in two weeks she says she will begin tweaking everything, setting up the Tinnitus highlight and any fitting changes. I truly don't realize what she can do to improve the widespread program any than what it is. The main thing I might want to get changed is the situating of the beneficiary wire. The shut snap arches I utilize will move out only a little sum making the wire move far from my ear. It's not as much as a 1/8 and they appear to situate them selves there and don't move any longer. This make them substantially more perceptible by other individuals so I would like to get this settled. Im almost certain that I'll be keeping helps now and exceptionally prescribe them to others that are in the market for new HA's. The cost of these were not shoddy as a set from Costco but rather I got a sizable rebate since I am utilized by Siemens.

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doubledown Originally Posted by dennisb

Read whole string and see no remarks about the EasyTek cutting in & out with the Binax 7bx HA's? It is a steady issue with my HA's & EasyTek. Do I potentially have a defective EasyTek or is this a typical event with this HA demonstrate & the EasyTek? Much obliged.

look on the rexton subforum for keen interface. same gadget. you presumably need it supplanted.

dennisb Read whole string and see no remarks about the EasyTek cutting in & out with the Binax 7bx HA's? It is a steady issue with my HA's & EasyTek. Do I conceivably have a flawed EasyTek or is this a typical event with this HA show & the EasyTek? Much appreciated.

Doc Jake oh my.. since I resigned Im no longer in Cincy or did I ever offer even one sets of listening devices I gave them away to Veterans. Some of you individuals need to get over your dejection, get some not too bad guides and get on with your lifes. There are far more terrible circumstances in life at that point requiring helps on the off chance that you dont trust me go to a VA doctor's facility and invest some energy in the hall.

bhcva reminder to myself....to stay away from cincy area....not called for doc...I've spent the evening perusing through a few strings and your reactions emerge and not positively....the rest of the group is wonderful.

Ought to have duplicated doc's text.....an uncalled for reaction in a discussion identified with somebody in a little European nation

Doc Jake some have a tendency to talk uproarious when utilizing it which will make separate on the other and a few people need to hold it like a mic and into itt which hoses the recieving wire. in the event that the issue proceeds request another neck circle.

GeraldoAntonio Hi all,

I am attempting the 7bx with the easytek. I don't have an unmistakable voice, however many individuals are griping that they can't comprehend me when I am utilizing the EasyTek. Amid the discussion the flag appears to shift better - more terrible - better - more awful et cetera. When I change to the amplifier of the telephone, the guest can hear me once more. On my side I don't encounter any variety in hearing, the sound is clear so I like the EasyTek. In any case, it will be futile when the other individual can't comprehend me.....

Could be because of the phone also, yet i don't know.

mjd2k Thanks for the answers

Great to know.

Much obliged to you!

Padzy Hey MJD2k,

Recurrence pressure are for individuals that have hearing misfortune > 90dB on the higher recurrence go. Your audiogram demonstrates that you don't have any hearing misfortune >90dB so you needn't bother with any recurrence pressure.

Musician_72 Youre right. Also, For your misfortune, recurrence pressure is not the approach.

Best respects,

M72

mjd2k What precisely is recurrence pressure and how might they alter the 7b to utilize it? I have the trax 42, which appears to have fundamentally the same as innovation as the 7bx

Im an aggregate amateur however why I've gathered is (and i could be wrong as examining this is an extend with my tech learning)

- FC enables higher frequencies to be moved to a lower recurrence instead of open up the high freq.

- 7b's come in various models that have diverse db goes that encourage freq comp relying upon customer prerequisites

- just beacause the 7b's have freq comp doesn't mean it is dynamic for all customers. Relies upon db misfortune in high freq

I have had the trax for a week and think about whether my guides have dynamic freq comp. it appears I have had a littler level of change contrasted with others. I know my Audi utilized the standard layout for programming as I'm just the second one she has done. She appears to be anxious to learn however.

Spaceman Originally Posted by Padzy

Would anyone be able to remark on how the Binax 7 contrasts and Costco's KS 6.0?

I just purchased the KS 6.0 and simply discovered that Costco additionally offer the binax which is renamed to Rexton Trax 42.

Does the Binax have recurrence pressure? My primary objective is to hear discourse well so I don't generally think about hearing other stuff.

Connected is my Audiogram

Much obliged.

I just as of late got my 7bx. Yes!! I was told they do however, starting at yet, I have no clue if it's working. I plan to do some testing later to check whether I can identify any benefit.... Up until this point, excessively numerous issues with Easy tek to stress over that.

Padzy Can anybody remark on how the Binax 7 contrasts and Costco's KS 6.0?

I just purchased the KS 6.0 and simply discovered that Costco additionally offer the binax which is renamed to Rexton Trax 42.

Does the Binax have recurrence pressure? My principle objective is to hear discourse well so I don't generally think about hearing other stuff.

Connected is my Audiogram

Much obliged.

Spaceman Just got my new Siemens unadulterated 7bx. It accompanied 6 programs. I might want to locate the best place to learn specifics about each extraordinary program and how they contrast from each other. I can hear they sound diverse in any case, might want to comprehend them better. Can't discover anything on Siemens site. Your assistance would be significantly refreshing.

helpbunny Originally Posted by dougy

I have only one niggling disturbance - the "Spatial Configurator" (read directional sound concentration work) is a superb advancement - yet Siemens decided to mostly injure it. It crosses out itself if the sound condition changes, or after roughly 45 minutes. So in an eatery you need to re-empower it every so often. Likewise, it is restricted to the Universal program - envision the twofold advantage on the off chance that they enabled the client to apply it to the "Boisterous Environment" program.

It's conceivable to make another program in light of the all inclusive program and physically design it for loud conditions. You could set more commotion decrease and play with the directional discourse upgrade setting. Directional discourse upgrade works best in circumstances where the speaker is before you, as it will diminish commotions from the back and sides. Be that as it may, you could have a go at setting it to "min" and having the most clear/loudest speakers on your side and others in front.

helpbunny Hey Blane! Here are a few hints that may be enable you to out. It would be ideal if you take note of that I'm not a hearing consideration proficient, only an extremely eager self-learner and long haul sound designing specialist. Converse with your audi about these.

Initially Posted by Blane

In huge gatherings there is a tremendous change in seeing close discussions, despite the fact that foundation commotion could be better.

There are two or three projects that may help you out: Noisy Environment and Stroll. Boisterous Environment is the one to utilize if the general population you are chatting with are before you. Your audi can set the directionality of the receivers to thin or more extensive. More extensive is better if there are a gathering of individuals before you that you have to listen. This program additionally diminishes foundation clamor from somewhere else.

Walk works better if there are individuals around you. It will utilize the SpeechFocus receiver mode which will naturally concentrate on the speaker regardless of where (s)he is. Your audi can expand clamor diminishment for this program (it's very low as a matter of course), yet it works best just for sounds that are not discourse.

To entirety up, Noisy Environment is best for circumstances where there are bunches of individuals, however you need to just hear the ones before you. Walk works best on the off chance that you need to hear everybody around you. Your audi can set the commotion diminishment level for these projects freely.

Initially Posted by Blane

I am hearing much better in the auto yet might want less street commotion.

The Stroll program could work here well with expanded commotion diminishment.

For both of these circumstances there are different alternatives also. Commotion decrease could be expanded on the all inclusive program and use Spatial Configurator to set the bearing in which you need to listen. Another alternative is to keep the present widespread program as it is and set another all inclusive program to program space 2 for instance. In this new program clamor diminishment could be set considerably higher and you could utilize Spatial Configurator with it also.

Initially Posted by Blane

Having an issue amid feast readiness and tidy up time. The sound of pots, dishes, utensils hitting each other is practically difficult as is paper and cellophane bundling being pounded and the sound thwart and waxed paper being torn from the roll. Different sounds like entryway hooks, switches, auto entryways, things falling on the floor and so on are noisy. Have regularly taken my portable amplifiers out amid supper prep due to these sharp sounds. Think portable amplifiers might be set too uproarious and ought to have brought yet don't need down to free discourse.

Luckily, there is a vastly improved alternative than bringing down volume. The correct answer is to utilize pressure (not recurrence pressure which is something altogether different). Did your audi input your UCL (awkward commotion level) information in the audiogram while doing the principal fit? In the event that (s)he didn't, the pressure levels and knee focuses are likely set excessively gentle and ought to be settled.

On the off chance that you are not natural about pressure, here's the real trick: when a sound at a specific recurrence achieves a specific tumult esteem (this esteem is called "knee"), the dB's that go past it are compacted (brought down) down as per a set proportion. All the uproar levels at the knee or beneath are left unmodified.

For instance, in the event that we set the knee to 80 dB, the compressor kicks in when that level is come to. Presently, if the knee is set to 80 dB, proportion to 5:1 and a sound with the commotion of 90 dB comes in, the compressor will bring down it to 82 dB. Where does this 82 originated from? 90 dB - 80 dB = 10 dB and afterward 10dB/5 = 2 dB, 80 dB + 2 dB = 82 dB.

Another illustration: we should utilize a similar knee, yet increment the proportion to 8:1. Presently a commotion of 100 dB comes in and the compressor swings it to 80 db + (100 dB - 80 dB)/8 = 82.5 dB. As should be obvious, with more pressure, we keep even noisy sounds at a sensible level.

In the event that the proportion is high, suppose at least 30:1, we are basically discussing a limiter. It essentially keeps the commotion at the level of the knee at max, regardless of how boisterous sounds come in. In any case, simply constraining everything is not savvy as it sounds extremely unnatural rapidly. Just the most astounding pinnacles should/could be restricted.

So for your situation, additional pressure is expected to chop down some additional dB's from boisterous commotions without influencing lower volumes. Your audi can do it (ideally knows HOW to do it) by hand, yet in the event that UCL information is accessible yet was not entered in the fitting programming, it ought to be entered and after that recalculate the main fit. That in itself may do the trap.

rasmus_braun Originally Posted by Spaceman

Would anyone be able to make an examination between the Siemens 7bx and the Resound Linx 9 arrangement or particularly the Linx 962. I need to get either ASAP, as tomorrow........ Much obliged

Reverberate LiNX and LiNX2 are Made for iPhone portable amplifiers that can stream sound straightforwardly from Apple gadgets without the requirement for a middle person gadget. Siemens binax items require a neckloop gadget called the easyTek.

Initially Posted by Spaceman

Do the Pure 7bx truly have 48 channels or is it some sort of mimicked 48 or virtual 48?? Provided that this is true, what number of channels does it truly have? Much appreciated

It truly has 48 channels of flag handling.

Spaceman Do the Pure 7bx truly have 48 channels or is it some sort of mimicked 48 or virtual 48?? Provided that this is true, what number of channels does it truly have? Much appreciated

KenP If you are constructing it in light of the message before yours, Costco has the 961 with the 312 battery and not the 962 with the 13. Both are more current era helps. Flip a coin or trial to see which you discover best for you.

Spaceman Can anybody make an examination between the Siemens 7bx and the Resound Linx 9 arrangement or particularly the Linx 962. I need to get either ASAP, as tomorrow........ Much obliged

Joe Duffer I ceased by Costco today and found they have recently started to offer the Siemens/Rexton Pure Binax 7bx.

They call it the Siemens "Trax 42" and offer it for $1299 each.

They guaranteed me the Trax 42 was the very same HA as the Binax 7bx

I'm backpedaling Friday to begin my 90-day trial.

Blane Originally Posted by rasmus_braun

Loud Environment, Phone Acoustically, Phone mT, Phone MT, Phone T, Music, TV, Outdoor Sports, Privacy, Tinnitus, Stroll, Induction Loop mT, Induction Loop T.

Much obliged for the data. That will enable when I to have my next arrangement. I was wearing Siemens Centra Life some time recently, and the Pure 7bx are an immense change over them. My discourse understanding is significantly enhanced, ready to hear mild-mannered individuals with no issue. In expansive gatherings there is a huge change in seeing close discussions, in spite of the fact that foundation clamor could be better. I am hearing much better in the auto yet might want less street clamor. Having an issue amid feast readiness and tidy up time. The sound of pots, dishes, utensils hitting each other is practically agonizing as is paper and cellophane bundling being pulverized and the sound thwart and waxed paper being torn from the roll. Different sounds like entryway hooks, switches, auto entryways, things falling on the floor and so forth are uproarious. Have frequently taken my amplifiers out amid feast prep due to these sharp sounds. Think listening devices might be set too boisterous and ought to have brought however don't need down to free discourse. I have the telephone application and have swung it to most reduced setting and have brought down treble the extent that I can. Telephone discussions don't appear a ton better, perhaps the telephone program will help with that. Television hearing is a considerable measure better and volume is much lower than some time recently, yet at the same time don't get everything. When watching British dramatization on PBS still need to utilize shut inscriptions. Will tell you how I make out after my next arrangement. Much appreciated once more

rasmus_braun Originally Posted by Blane

Just got a couple of Pure 7bx. My audi just set up the general program. What different projects are accessible?

Boisterous Environment, Phone Acoustically, Phone mT, Phone MT, Phone T, Music, TV, Outdoor Sports, Privacy, Tinnitus, Stroll, Induction Loop mT, Induction Loop T.

Blane Just got a couple of Pure 7bx. My audi just set up the all inclusive program. What different projects are accessible?

sabrin514 Cheapest I discovered them was through hearing insurgencies for $2100 each. I'm certain there are individuals out there that attempt to offer them for $3500+ each.

Joe Duffer Curious, what is the value extend for the Siemens Binax 7bx in the US?

spingee Im from Czech republic and i trialed combine of siemens 7bx acquired straightforwardly in siemens in prague. They costs 27000czk which is around 1200$ (one piece, fresh out of the box new)

KenP Time to redesign the alerts, Audiogirl. What's more, you've justification for a disguised convey allow. OTOH, with affectability preparing and perhaps a ball choke, he may be a to some degree helpful part clock. Who's taking out the refuse now?

In this way, do the Googley thing Jakey, and place that in your setting. Jeeze! A few people never figure the Internet/PCs out. Furthermore, in light of AG's response you might be exaggerating recurrence.

audiogal Originally Posted by Doc Jake

well butt hole I am in the cincy territory have said the same on heaps of post.

O...H............!

Doc Jake well butt hole I am in the cincy territory have said the same on heaps of post.

KenP Well, Jakey why not share where you are? Parcels here don't. No doubt, it'd offer assistance. Who to indite...so numerous...

Doc Jake is there a paticular reason people not in the US neglect to say that until have gotten ten answers? so how could you wind up with molds that is not the default for any of the collectors aside from the hp's. when you fivured out this pack wasn't so splendid did they hold a firearm on you to finish the deals. in the event that they are an approved Siemen merchant on the off chance that they cannot get a rep in person they unquestionably could get technical support on the telephone. this OP is beginning to notice somewhat fishy. Unless you are in BF russia Im not certain you could be 350 mile from various substantial Cities.

KenP Am beyond any doubt you blew it Bongo. He says 350 miles away. Baltic, Former Czech Republic and so on. All things considered, instructed and presumably abroad in light of the fact that he is an informal English speaker and referenced the separation in miles. Such a great amount for our Sherlock impressions. Wager we both blew it.

Musician_72 ... yet, in Liechtenstein there is nothing that could be called "far away".

I'd figure some baltic nation.

Um bongo I'm running with Lichtenstein

Doc Jake small nation in Europe.. figure my precious stone ball needs a tune-up.

helpbunny Originally Posted by Doc Jake

confounded however whatever..

Not precisely beyond any doubt what caused the disarray, but rather I live in a little nation in Europe where the listening devices business is very unique in relation to numerous different nations. There are just a couple of organizations in the entire nation that import portable amplifiers and just a couple of individuals who truly know their thing. Too terrible that they are truly far away. The clients here don't generally realize what appropriately set up listening devices can do, so they don't know to request better client benefit. Clients pay high costs (5-6k euros for premium guides, no fiscal help from the legislature) since there is not much rivalry, but rather at times get great and master level client benefit.

Doc Jake confused yet whatever..

helpbunny Originally Posted by Doc Jake

demand they have their Siemens Rep at your next arrangement. which level of beneficiaries do you have?

I live around 350 miles from the closest rep. Just pack of more seasoned audi women with nurture based preparing around here. Things like EQ is a riddle to them.

I have the slightest intense beneficiaries, yet I don't feel that is the issue. I have a bizarre hearing with essentially 0 base and top of the line and a vast treat chomp in the vicinity of 500Hz and 4kHz topping at - 50dB around 2kHz.

Doc Jake Originally Posted by helpbunny

I attempted 7bx against first class Audeo Qs and 7bx were greatly improved. I wound up purchasing 7bx, however for reasons unknown my neighborhood audis can't tune them legitimately with the molds. They can just utilize the fundamental settings when setting them up. I even needed to ask for that they put a vent (and the breadth of it) in the molds, as they did not understand what really matters to the vent. Need to take a few to get back some composure to Connexx programming :/

demand they have their Siemens Rep at your next arrangement. which level of beneficiaries do you have?

atnbirdie Sounds like your audis require some Siemens preparing. They do have bounty accessible for Audis. On the off chance that you can't locate a neighborhood who knows how to change them, at that point you might need to get Connexx. Be prompted however you'll need to put resources into equipment which is not shabby. The HiPro USB is one approach. The people at the Hearing Company used to offer them, yet not certain in the event that they do any more. Know you'll need to spend in the area of $800+ dollars to get the gadget and every one of the links you'll have to interface with it. So it's not a modest speculation.

helpbunny I attempted 7bx against first class Audeo Qs and 7bx were greatly improved. I wound up purchasing 7bx, yet for reasons unknown my neighborhood audis can't tune them appropriately with the molds. They can just utilize the fundamental settings when setting them up. I even needed to ask for that they put a vent (and the breadth of it) in the molds, as they did not understand what truly matters to the vent. Need to get a grip to Connexx programming :/

atnbirdie Originally Posted by theo

I have been utilizing the Pure 7bx for 4 days now

Sounds like (modest play on words) the primary concern is the 7bx are doing the employment for you. You hear better and the boisterous condition gives you a chance to hear in places you've never listened. With respect to the negatives, here are a few things to consider:

- I think you ought to backpedal to your audi, educate them regarding the criticism and folding paper, plastic sacks commotion indications and let them do a few changes. Quite a long time ago Siemens had proficient preparing recordings effectively open on their site. I watched them and the situations you say can be tended to by programming by your audi.

- The way that wind commotion is additionally louder might be an issue essentially. Could be the pick up is turned up too high or just that the new HAs are empowering you to hear better in general (you specify you're hearing better overallso contrasted with the old HAs) so wind commotion sounds louder.

- Electronic commotion I too have encountered that with my 7bxs. I was at an inn where at whatever point I went into the general population lavatories and in my room close to the entryway, I heard that 'static'. It was irritating, yet I'm willing to live with it given the better general execution of my HAs and on the grounds that I'm barely ever in places where I get the static.

- noisy gushing sounds like another modification or possibly the 7bxs are performing at their point of confinement for your kind of hearing misfortune. There's dependably the possibility your audi didn't exactly hit the nail on the head basically in light of the fact that you're at the fringe of having the capacity to utilize the binax arrangement viably or requiring an alternate model with various execution parameters.

rasmus_braun Originally Posted by theo

Wind commotion decrease: not certain what truly matters to lessening they! I didn't feel any contrast between the Oticon Epoq and the Siemens Pure bx, it is considerably more uproarious with the Pure 7bx on the grounds that it is louder.

Criticism clamor: regardless I hear the input shrieking and it is louder now, however it is there.

Electronic clamor: each time I go to the washroom at work, I begin getting irritating static commotion, as a result of electronic obstruction with the fire observing gadget in the roof!

a few commotions are to a great degree uproarious and exceptionally awkward! for instance: folding paper, tearing paper, experiencing the plastic sacks in the cooler.

when spilling the telephone or music through the easytek, it is not that uproarious for me but rather individuals around me can hear it!

Your audi can make changes, for example, expanding the eWindScreen highlight to most extreme, and ensuring it's set to binaural. Lessening the high-recurrence pick up will help diminish sharp paper and plastic sack clamors. In case you're getting criticism, and others can hear sound spilling out of your ear channel, at that point the fitting is excessively open. Attempt shut vaults or twofold arches.

audiogal Originally Posted by Musician_72

Likewise extremely decent sounding is music IF IT IS NOT TOO LOUD! This applies to recorded music (with a hearing misfortune you ordinarily won't cranc up the volume an excessive amount of in any case) and to unrecorded music, on the off chance that you don't sit in the front line or - much more terrible - are at the conductor's spot.

To cut the long story somewhat shorter: Every exertion, including reaching a siemens tech, neglected to make the twisting (cutting, for this situation) leave.

One thing that Marshall Chasin (huge in the portable amplifier/artist field) prescribes is to put clear tape over the portable hearing assistant receivers when tuning in to boisterous music to keep the section. It brings down the contribution to the amplifiers without twisting the flag

minski Originally Posted by jffkm

Does anybody know whether Apple Live Listen can work with the siemens EasyTek bluetooth streamer? The help record and pages are scanty and technical support at Siemens shockingly does not know. Just obtained an arrangement of unadulterated binax's (like them a great deal up until this point yet in a few conditions, a committed mic still might be important for my necessities) + easytek and hoping to spare $ on buying a devoted receiver setup in the event that I can utilize my iphone. Much obliged!

I am apprehensive not, the Easytek does not incorporate as a made for iphone listening device device...it acts like an ordinary bluetooth gadget (with the back channel to control the projects of the associates)

theo I have been utilizing the Pure 7bx for 4 days now and I have blended emotions up until this point! I utilized the Oticon Epoq for a long time some time recently, and when time came to supplant them, I thought go to the higher end HAs. I read alot and the Pure 7bx had incredible audits and awesome alternatives that I was searching for. I will begin with the great things: I'm hearing much better the delicate discussions, where in the past I couldn't hear a word. Likewise the execution in uproarious spots is remarkable. I was with my significant other in an eatery and flipped the HAs to the Noise program which the audiologist modified, and it was astonishing, how all the clamor and discussions around us got veiled (not completely obviously) but rather my better half's voice was clear. It is irregular experience for the first run through.

presently to the awful stuff, and I don't know, whether a portion of the issues are caused by the programming, or due to my listening ability misfortune ( I had Stapedectomy done on both my ears).

Wind commotion diminishment: not certain what truly matters to lessening they! I didn't feel any distinction between the Oticon Epoq and the Siemens Pure bx, it is considerably more boisterous with the Pure 7bx in light of the fact that it is louder.

Input commotion: despite everything I hear the criticism shrieking and it is louder now, yet it is there.

Electronic commotion: each time I go to the washroom at work, I begin getting irritating static clamor, in light of electronic obstruction with the fire checking gadget in the roof!

a few clamors are amazingly noisy and exceptionally awkward! for instance: folding paper, tearing paper, experiencing the plastic packs in the cooler.

when gushing the telephone or music through the easytek, it is not that uproarious for me but rather individuals around me can hear it!

Did any one experience such issues or do you have any thought or proposals?

jffkm Does anybody know whether Apple Live Listen can work with the siemens EasyTek bluetooth streamer? The help record and pages are meager and technical support at Siemens shockingly does not know. Just bought an arrangement of immaculate binax's (like them a considerable measure up until this point yet in a few conditions, a devoted mic still might be important for my necessities) + easytek and hoping to spare $ on buying a committed mouthpiece setup in the event that I can utilize my iphone. Much obliged!

Musician_72 My impression of the Siemens Pure 7bx

Hey,

as I've tried a similar guide, I'll add my impressions to this string.

This was the main amplifier I at any point attempted, and subsequently the settings were made extremely "gentle". My audi utilized the "binax fit" equation. In case you're keen on formulae: Even however my listening ability misfortune is very "direct" inclining down, the enhancement that is computed by this equation is more similar to a "slope", increasing the mids and higher mids, yet very little over 4 or 5 kHz.

In their promotions, Siemens push the way that this guide is particularly great in boisterous circumstances, likewise in discourse in-discourse circumstances. My impression was and is: They are truly that great. I have the feeling that the processor in this guide truly perceives discourse. In not all that boisterous circumstances, it does what each HA does: increases lost frequencies. Be that as it may, in loud circumstances, it removes the discourse, ampliefies it and disposes of the rest, and it even knows who's addressing you (and it typically does this privilege, rather than the discourse in 360° by phonak, which is - in my experience - not generally right!). The sound in boisterous circumstances therefore turns out to be more "counterfeit", however I surmise that is alright, you know then that the guide is doing work for you.

Likewise great is the ability to know east from west, I had the feeling that I know decisively where sounds are originating from.

Likewise extremely decent sounding is music IF IT IS NOT TOO LOUD! This applies to recorded music (with a hearing misfortune you as a rule won't cranc up the volume an excessive amount of in any case) and to unrecorded music, on the off chance that you don't sit in the front column or - much more dreadful - are at the conductor's spot.

To cut the long story somewhat shorter: Every exertion, including reaching a siemens tech, neglected to make the bending (cutting, for this situation) leave.

Else I'd purchase this HA without a doubt, since discourse in discourse clamor is difficult to handle, and the 7 bx does this remarkably.

The general sound of the siemens is fresh and clear, crisper than widex, not as sharp as phonak (this is, obviously, exceedingly subjective). I imagine that each one who has bunches of discourse - in - clamor or even discourse in-discourse commotion circumstances should attempt this guide.

Demiles Update, I had an opportunity to hear some out unrecorded music surprisingly with the new guides. The outcomes were exceptional! No program changes required only the default program and the sounds were unfathomable. It was my nieces show playing in the Allstate ensemble symphony and hearing everything from the cymbals to bass unmistakably.

fabkellys good openness is of the utmost importance. keep arrangements of what you like and don't and tell your individual whenever you see them. additionally, your cerebrum is in a confection shop of new data, it will quiet down.

Initially Posted by norpan

Hi all!

I'm on the tenth day of the time for testing of my Pure 7bx. Beginning to get used to the "hair sounds" (when I put the hair behind my ears) and the sound of my voice... (this is the first occasion when I utilize HA's ever!) I discover them incredible, yet of course, I have nothing to contrast and. A certain something however: When there's bunches of commotion going on, I think that its difficult to concentrate on a sound. Every one of them are as solid to my ears..... (like TV out of sight and so forth) Will I get used to this or would they say they are not set adequate? I have an all inclusive program and a commotion lessening program.

much appreciated!

dougy Originally Posted by atnbirdie

dougy, if by programming the portable amplifiers, you mean the rocker arm works, your audi is mistaken in saying each side must be modified to do a certain something. Check your manual and you will perceive what I mean. I had my HA rocker switches customized in that capacity:

RIGHT side: volume (fast snaps) AND projects (longer, 1 sec snaps) AND on/off (long snaps)

LEFT side: spatial configurator (fast snaps) AND power on/off (long snaps)

I printed out the check list from the manual and showed what I needed. The audi set the HAs up quite recently like I needed. Note that in the event that you set one of your HA rocker arms to control the spatial configurator (SC), you don't need to utilize the telephone application. Simply make certain all notice tones are turned on so you get some input from the HAs to fill you in regarding whether they have reacted and where they are in the settings (e.g., SC beeps once for up/down change, however plays a multi tone when you achieve max or min dispersal settings).

Expectation this makes a difference

Hello there atnbirdie, Thanks for the heads-up. It unfolded that my sound didn't execute the Spatial Configurator coordinate on the HA's since I was utilizing the easyTek application. he has now set up the Spatial Configurator on one guide, alternate has volume, program, and on/off.

I am presently absolutely content with the entire setup - these Pure 700bx guides are phenomenal contrasted with the Pure 700's. Particularly the more extensive volume go, remote transmitter for TV, immeasurably enhanced amplifier on the easyTek (for cell phone), T-Coil circle program for chapel and shows, even the wired association from my PC speaker earphone attachment, for tuning in to youtube recordings. dougy

pclewis Thanks Fred, I am doing plain focal points and will wear glasses. I reached an indistinguishable conclusion from you. Hello, I have had them on for a long time. I am +2.0 on the bifocal, however I will most likely now move to dynamic.

atnbirdie dougy, if by programming the portable amplifiers, you mean the rocker arm works, your audi is off base in saying each side must be modified to do a certain something. Check your manual and you will perceive what I mean. I had my HA rocker switches customized thusly:

RIGHT side: volume (brisk snaps) AND projects (longer, 1 sec snaps) AND on/off (long snaps)

LEFT side: spatial configurator (brisk snaps) AND power on/off (long snaps)

I printed out the check list from the manual and demonstrated what I needed. The audi set the HAs up recently like I needed. Note that on the off chance that you set one of your HA rocker arms to control the spatial configurator (SC), you don't need to utilize the telephone application. Simply make sure all notice tones are turned on so you get some input from the HAs to fill you in as to whether they have reacted and where they are in the settings (e.g., SC beeps once for up/down change, yet plays a multi tone when you achieve max or min dispersal settings).

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atnbirdie norpan, I just got the 7bx HAs (overhauled from Pure 701s). I adore them. I discover they improve work in loud situations than the 701s. You say despite everything you have issues in uproarious situations and say you do have the "loud" program. I find that at times it goes to the loud condition, additionally knock up the volume an indent or two. Check whether that makes a difference.

On the other hand, with the 7bx HAs you can utilize the spatial configurator and center the receivers specifically before you. You do that from the widespread program. I had my HAs designed so I could utilize the rocker arms to control a great deal of things: Right side up/down = volume (brisk snap); programs (longer, 1 sec snap); on/off (long snap). Left side up/down + spatial configurator (speedy snaps); on/off (long snap). Also, I have the EasyTek and got the ET App for my iPhone. with that, you can alter the spatial configurator from the telephone which gives a realistic indicating how they are engaged.

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spingee Hi,

Would someone be able to post here some genuine photographs of pures? I cant barely discover any on google, just authority borchure photographs. I might want to see them fitted and alongside some question like lighter so i can envision measure.

Much thanks

NYC Fred Originally Posted by pclewis

Getting old is not for sissies, and the waterfalls are next.

A stroll in the recreation center. Laser surgery for both, took a taxi home alone both circumstances.

IMO, avoid the bi-central focal points. Not consummated yet, IMO.

rasmus_braun Originally Posted by dougy

I have only one niggling disturbance - the "Spatial Configurator" (read directional sound concentration work) is a brilliant advancement - however Siemens decided to somewhat disable it. It scratchs off itself if the sound condition changes, or after around 45 minutes. So in an eatery you need to re-empower it sporadically. Likewise, it is kept to the Universal program - envision the twofold advantage in the event that they enabled the client to apply it to the "Uproarious Environment" program. So the idea is splendid, however the originators have kept the client from controlling it, along these lines constraining its convenience.

Spatial Configurator is planned to be utilized as a transitory supersede of the programmed framework. It gives you a chance to change the mouthpiece mode from omnidirectional the distance to Narrow Directionality. Be that as it may, Narrow Directionality is now the default setting for the Noisy Environment program, so Spatial Configurator would be excess if were accessible in that program. In case you're in an eatery, simply change to the Noisy Environment program and it won't drop out.

dougy Originally Posted by rasmus_braun

What you're portraying is ordinary conduct. The Spatial Configurator Span will change back to the Universal program if the clamor level drops fundamentally or following a time of 45 minutes. Furthermore, it must be utilized as a part of the Universal program.

I've now for all intents and purposes finished my time for testing with the Pure 700bx. General they are magnificent, extraordinary volume run, easyTek is splendid, T-Coil circle , sound transmission, and Bluetooth are likewise awesome. I have only one niggling bothering - the "Spatial Configurator" (read directional sound concentration work) is a superb advancement - yet Siemens decided to somewhat handicap it. It crosses out itself if the sound condition changes, or after roughly 45 minutes. So in an eatery you need to re-empower it once in a while. Likewise, it is limited to the Universal program - envision the twofold advantage on the off chance that they enabled the client to apply it to the "Uproarious Environment" program. So the idea is splendid, however the planners have kept the client from controlling it, in this way constraining its convenience.

I comprehend that Phonak have a comparable capacity in their most recent guides, however they enable the client to choose when to kill their rendition of sound core interest. In any case I can't bear to change stallions in mid-stream now.

Having moved that out into the open, I healthily suggest the Pure 700bx and will endure the Spatial Configurator impediments.

dougy.

Demiles To follow up on the recipient length issue, I went into attempt the following size longer standard collector and it was very piece too long and were more evident than the mediums I had briefly. So the mediums were a superior fit and the Audi revamp the genuine ear estimation and made alterations. Regardless I think the mediums are better in the low frequencies then the principles yet the guides are back to sounding incredible!

monolithic Originally Posted by Doc Jake

As said in your other post have a program included into the easytek Have them support the low end and cut the top of the line down a little and go from that point. Regardless of what helps you run with they wouldn't seem like a higher end headset. In the event that you get your ordinary/base program dialed in you truly won't should be always screwing with the application.

Will get some information about that.

Much obliged for the heads-up,

M.

pclewis I am originating from Phonak Nadia and 35 years of portable amplifiers from simple to computerized. Before these Binax arrangement, I couldn't utilize RIC helps, since they would not suit my significant hearing misfortune. My ear waterway would not oblige the most effective recipient and I require encased molds, not cones. So Siemens made the molds with the following size down recipient and they are abundant for my misfortune. I have companions with less misfortune that were exceptionally glad going from tubes to RIC, yet it was not intended to be until these turned out. I am in fact capable, so got the easyTek and the telephone application. I had the Bluetooth circle with my Phonak's mostly for the telephone.

Thus, following two days and just a single tuning, these guides are a huge stride up. The HTC One telephone does everything with the application, including killing encompassing clamor while on the telephone if craved. The easyTek application is magnificent and instinctive in the event that you are utilized to cell phone applications. The main think you surrender without the easyTek (utilizing the sound control as opposed to Bluetooth) is speed of reaction and the spatial configurator. When you ace the spatial configurator in an uproarious eatery, and I have just attempted it once, you will need to have it. Sort of like PCs and telephones, innovation advances and it cost a fortune to stay aware of it, however this is the best cash I spend.

Presently my better half is talking too boisterous and she says I am finally not shouting at her. Tammy Wynette sounds really great once more. Getting old is not for sissies, and the waterfalls are next.

rasmus_braun Originally Posted by dougy

The main other component I'm uncertain about is the Spatial Configurator - it appears to cross out itself after around 45 minutes. Likewise, it appears to just apply to the Universal program - I would lean toward in the event that it could be connected to the Noisy Environment program as well.

What you're depicting is ordinary conduct. The Spatial Configurator Span will change back to the Universal program if the commotion level drops altogether or following a time of 45 minutes. What's more, it must be utilized as a part of the Universal program.

dougy Originally Posted by Demiles

I don't know I comprehend what you mean by each guide can just have one program. Is it accurate to say that you are alluding to the rocker switch program? The guides can have up to 6 programs I accept, alterable with the rocker change if customized to do as such, the Touch Control application or easytek or easytek application. The touch control application can kill the guides, change programs, alter volume, and change bass/treble inclination. I discover the Touch control application exceptionally valuable particularly to turn them off and changing volume. There's most likely the all inclusive program can deal with almost all circumstances if setup accurately, it's all I've utilized and want to have others.

Yes, I didn't clarify it accurately - I implied the guides can control only two capacities, one in each guide. As said, I have one guide set to change programs, of which there are six. Rasmus_braun has clarified that too, the audiologist would setup be able to the guides to be turned on/off by means of the rocker switch, so I'll complete that one week from now. The main other component I'm uncertain about is the Spatial Configurator - it appears to cross out itself after around 45 minutes. Likewise, it appears to just apply to the Universal program - I would favor on the off chance that it could be connected to the Noisy Environment program as well.

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dougy Originally Posted by Doc Jake

You are either extremely befuddled or your AuD is.

I figure both! I'm the primary customer of my audiologist to have this model so to be reasonable he has conceded I'm somewhat of a guinea pig. Be that as it may, we'll continue on.

rasmus_braun Originally Posted by dougy

I as of now have volume and program-changing in mine. This implies I can't alter the "spatial configurator" (who concocts these names?) without the cell phone application in addition to easyTek. Nor would i be able to kill the guides without opening the battery compartment, in spite of the fact that I can do as such with the easyTek.

On the off chance that you have the rocker change set to Volume and Program change, your audi can likewise choose the Enable Power On/Off component. This will give you a chance to kill the portable hearing assistants with a long press. Volume up/down will even now be a short press, yet program change turns into a medium press. Spatial Configurator is best controlled with the easyTek application since you can get to both Span and Direction; the rocker switch can just do Span.

Doc Jake Originally Posted by dougy

I've had my new Siemens Pure 7bx + easyTek + versatile App for fourteen days now, and they are great without a doubt. However there are a couple of confinements with the program alternatives, despite the fact that this model is the highest point of the Siemen's range:

Each guide can contain one program just, as per my audiologist - I as of now have volume and program-changing in mine. This implies I can't alter the "spatial configurator" (who devises these names?) without the cell phone application in addition to easyTek. Nor would i be able to kill the guides without opening the battery compartment, in spite of the fact that I can do as such with the easyTek.

The T-Coil does not appear to improve arrive line phone volume, but rather makes typical phone voices a little clearer. I locate that simply utilizing the telephone's amplifier gives better outcomes.

My territory line phone likewise has Bluetooth, yet it won't combine specifically to easyTek. I haven't made sense of yet whether in the event that I match the landline telephone to my cell phone, on the off chance that I would then be able to connect into it by means of the Bluetooth work in easyTek. Regardless of the possibility that that is conceivable, when all the exchanging was finished with an approaching call, the guest would presumably have surrendered.

The "spatial configurator" is a phenomenal element - however is fiddly to set since it needs the cell phone at display.

One great component of the portable application is having the capacity to see battery levels, and change the blend amongst bass and treble.

Generally speaking, to get the best out of these guides, you do require the easyTek and your cell phone.

Having got all that out of my framework, I need to state the Pure7bx is a critical change over my past guides (Pure 700's)

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You are either exceptionally confounded or your AuD is.

Demiles I'm not certain I comprehend what you mean by each guide can just have one program. It is safe to say that you are alluding to the rocker switch program? The guides can have up to 6 programs I accept, alterable with the rocker change if modified to do as such, the Touch Control application or easytek or easytek application. The touch control application can kill the guides, change programs, alter volume, and change bass/treble inclination. I discover the Touch control application exceptionally helpful particularly to turn them off and changing volume. There's most likely the general program can deal with about all circumstances if setup accurately, it's all I've utilized and want to have others.

dougy I've had my new Siemens Pure 7bx + easyTek + versatile App for fourteen days now, and they are great without a doubt. However there are a couple of impediments with the program choices, despite the fact that this model is the highest point of the Siemen's range:

Each guide can contain one program just, as per my audiologist - I at present have volume and program-changing in mine. This implies I can't change the "spatial configurator" (who concocts these names?) without the cell phone application in addition to easyTek. Nor would i be able to kill the guides without opening the battery compartment, in spite of the fact that I can do as such with the easyTek.

The T-Coil does not appear to upgrade arrive line phone volume, but rather makes typical phone voices a little clearer. I locate that simply utilizing the telephone's amplifier gives better outcomes.

My property line phone likewise has Bluetooth, however it won't match straightforwardly to easyTek. I haven't made sense of yet whether on the off chance that I match the landline telephone to my cell phone, in the event that I would then be able to interface into it by means of the Bluetooth work in easyTek. Regardless of the possibility that that is conceivable, when all the exchanging was finished with an approaching call, the guest would likely have surrendered.

The "spatial configurator" is a brilliant component - however is fiddly to set since it needs the cell phone at introduce.

One great element of the portable application is having the capacity to see battery levels, and adjust the blend amongst bass and treble.

In general, to get the best out of these guides, you do require the easyTek and your cell phone.

Having got all that out of my framework, I need to state the Pure7bx is a critical change over my past guides (Pure 700's)

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Doc Jake As specified in your other post have a program included into the easytek Have them help the low end and cut the top of the line down a little and go from that point. Regardless of what helps you run with they wouldn't seem like a higher end headset. In the event that you get your ordinary/base program dialed in you truly won't should be always screwing with the application.

monolithic I'm as of now demo'ing the Siemens Pure Binax 7bx and I have the easyTek gadget also. They are potentially supplanting my Starkey 3 i70 CIC's.

I don't have a duplicate of my audiogram, yet I have a significant hearing misfortune and was advised CIC's were not the course to go. Been wearing CIC's for a long time because of my own obstinate request and counter to proficient guidance. Anyway…

A couple of things/questions I have:

1) Music sounds like poop through the easyTek gadget. Ordinarily, I tune in to music with my beyerDynamic Pro earphones. Indeed, even my auto's bluetooth sounds superior to the easyTek.

2) The spatial/directional capacity of these appear to do nothing for me. I utilize the easyTek application on my iPhone and can't generally tell a distinction while modifying the spatial setting. It doesn't appear to enhance hearing and understanding the television for example.

3) Overall sound does not sound as "normal" as my Starkeys, in spite of the fact that everything is substantially louder. These Simenes sound "boisterous". I would prefer know whether not to call them "cruel" or if that is quite recently the expanded power I'm hearing? The Starkeys aren't as uproarious/effective, yet stable a great deal more normal.

4) How do these sound/contrast with the Starkey Halos?

Much obliged,

Michael

Shurup Any of you parents attempting the new Binax helps at any point attempted or utilized Micon? How are they looking at one next to the other? How much better is the new Binax innovation?

Doc Jake Yes. In any case, not worth the bother for week or something like that.

Demiles If we did change collectors for all time would the guides must be reconfigured?

Demiles Just a brief till the better one come in.

Doc Jake Was this a lasting substitution or to hold you over until the point when she got the right one?

Demiles I had an arrangement to see my audi on wednesday to check whether she could adjust the wire position. When she perceived how they were fitting she said the wire was only excessively short. Sadly she didnt have the following size longer in stock so she changed out the standard beneficiary to a medium power recipient of a similar size. The beneficiary of the medium power is around a 1/8 longer and the fitt is clearly better however the sound from the distinctive power collector sounds diverse. Not really badly but rather unique as in significantly more bass/low frequencies that didn't emerge some time recently. I favor the sound of the standard one without a doubt. Would it be advisable for her to have made alterations in the wake of climbing to the following force beneficiary? She has the following size beneficiary on arrange for me which sick get next Wednesday.

Doc Jake Originally Posted by sbrave

Howdy, I am new to getting portable amplifiers and after much inquiring about, I have chosen to attempt costco Kirkland signature premium Pro. I was let it know is made by Resound and has accessible the resonate extras.

The elements are:Data-logging: Device-2-Device Communication: Digital Feedback Suppression: Directionality Options:Nanotech coating:Noise Regulator:Sound Processing:Volume Adjustment:Wind Protection.

I know most portable hearing assistants have fundamentally the same as elements. However for under 2000 dollers a couple including remote control and boundless modifications and 90 day time for testing. Additionally has 15 channels and4 recollections.

I did converse with my audiologist and was told the correct ear would suit an open ear form? what's more, the left ear a to some degree shut or formed ear shape. From my signatue at the base of my post am i in good shape?

begin your own string this string is about the new Siemens helps.

sbrave Hi, I am new to getting portable hearing assistants and after much looking into, I have chosen to attempt costco Kirkland signature premium Pro. I was let it know is made by Resound and has accessible the resonate embellishments.

The elements are:Data-logging: Device-2-Device Communication: Digital Feedback Suppression: Directionality Options:Nanotech coating:Noise Regulator:Sound Processing:Volume Adjustment:Wind Protection.

I know most portable amplifiers have fundamentally the same as components. However for under 2000 dollers a couple including remote control and boundless modifications and 90 day time for testing. Likewise has 15 channels and4 recollections.

I did converse with my audiologist and was told the correct ear would suit an open ear form? also, the left ear a to some degree shut or shaped ear form. From my signatue at the base of my post am i in good shape?

Demiles Well since my old guides intensified everything it's simple for me to perceive when the commotion lessening is working. With the new I can in any case hear things out of sight( particularly discourse) yet holding a discussion is such a great amount of less demanding with individuals around me. I couldn't do that some time recently.

norpan Hello all!

I'm on the tenth day of the time for testing of my Pure 7bx. Beginning to get used to the "hair sounds" (when I put the hair behind my ears) and the sound of my voice... (this is the first occasion when I utilize HA's ever!) I discover them incredible, yet on the other hand, I have nothing to contrast and. A certain something however: When there's heaps of commotion going on, I think that its difficult to concentrate on a sound. Every one of them are as solid to my ears..... (like TV out of sight and so on) Will I get used to this or would they say they are not set adequate? I have a general program and a clamor diminishing system.

much appreciated!

Demiles I surely comprehend your point however I genuinely have no issue utilizing a telephone with HA's. I've never had issues I had helps too. I'm just not a telephone talker and don't plan to begin later on. I truly don't need another gadget to need to bear and charge regular, I have much an excessive number of now as it seems to be.

Musician_72 Hi,

I have likewise tried those and truly enjoyed them much of the time. Your depiction is exceptionally acurate!

I have likewise seen that the wire is extremely obvious. I imagined that, as this was for trying just, they didn't make acclimations to the wire, I think in the event that you warm it up you can change the incline of the wire to fit all the more straightforwardly to your ear and not emerge.

Why are you utilizing shut vaults, coincidentally? You're hearing misfortune isn't that terrible, so you shouldn't get input with the open arches.

The issue I have with the Pure 7BX is mutilation with unrecorded music (piano, singing, I'm not discussing opened up music), the higher the notes (soprano), the more contortion. Just like a music instructor, this is a genuine work of art for me, so I am trying the Widex Dream 440 right now, which do (the extent that I can tell following 3 days) not twist, but rather I preferred the general sound of the Siemens better.

seasonedears Originally Posted by Demiles

I didn't purchase the Easytek since I truly don't utilize any of its elements. I don't chat on the telephone especially ......

Congrats on your new HA's and you positive involvement with them!

I am not attempting to offer anything, but rather I simply need to share my own telephone involvement with you. When I initially got my HA's and the audi talked with me about me way of life and requirements, I revealed to her that I wasn't utilizing the telephone much - and that was valid. I in any case got the streamer and I found how fresh and clear it was to chat on the telephone with the sound coming to both ears. By then I understood that I over some time had quit utilizing the telephone in particular. Subliminally I had maintained a strategic distance from it since it was hard for me to hear what individuals were stating, without associating it to my listening ability misfortune. The psyche at times have bizarre methods for excusing conduct! Anyway, I just idea I would share that!

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