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Nitro Micon ITC

2015-07-07 13:45:00 in Signia (Formerly Siemens) by  MarkD51
Hello, as some of you may know from another string, I have started looking into this HA for myself,

I in actuality have become one cost from one online dealer of HAs, and the cost appears to be reasonable, and maybe superior to a stroll in buy, however there are as yet a couple of unanswered inquiries that I'll need to bring up with the vender, and if there's any impact on the value cite they gave me? For example, regardless of whether the value they gave me was for the 3mi or 7mi model?

Yet, I trust I discovered some further critical data about this specific model of ITC help that is frustrating. In that this ITC HA has no arrangement for remote control changes of volume, or projects.

I expect this is right, that no gadget clearly will remotely control these HAs. That lone the BTE of this model has such remote control capacities.

Consequently, with a conceivable ommittance of such modification includes, that would IMO severly confine any cutting edge flexibility of these HAs, and that I obviously might want some type of manual alteration highlights. What great is 6 programs at that point, if a client can't physically switch them?

I see a volume dial, and program catch envisioned at Siemen's site. Not certain if those are standard, or choices, and once more, I don't know of the expansion of these altering catches dials has an impact on the evaluating they gave me?

I'm learning not to expect anything, and I most likely don't need any offensive amazements should I arrange these under any conditions.

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Ansextra Regarding the telephone, I telecommuting and spend a lot of my day on phone calls. Since getting my HA's around 2 months prior I began utilizing the speakerphone more. Fortunately I haven't been getting an excessive number of objections from individuals on the flip side. I do have a headset however now I see how suppressed the sound is. I would love to utilize gushing however I truly didn't care for the Compilot Air II and would not like to wear the Compilot II around my neck. It totally flabbergasts me how cutting-edge Phonak is with their HA's and how a long ways behind they appear to be with their embellishments.

MarkD51 One of the challenges I've been encountering, is issue with telephone discussions here and there with these more seasoned Phonak Aids. Ideally, more up to date innovation with a telephone spilling highlight in "living stereo" will be a colossal change to improve such. I utilize an arrangement of 4 cordless AT&T Phones all through the house for accommodation, and they have a speakerphone highlight which helps at the present. That I can hear the guest with both ears. Sonic Clarity-determination obviously isn't precisely best in class Hi Fi.

Huge numbers of us may have a large number of similar concerns. I doubtlessly wouldn't need, or others to bite the dust in a house fire, and I have 5 smoke indicators scattered over the house, one, ideal alongside my bed on an end table, and another on my room divider. Also, 3 5lb Fire dousers all through the house.

It is a stress that something terrible would happen, and there I am sleeping soundly, and hear nothing. My 84 year old mother lives with me, and once more, there's stress of not hearing her weeps for help amidst the night.

A sword of Damocles, that should something awful happen, and I'm not hearing, it is a stress that prescience was poor-lacking, and I overlooked something that I could've done had I thought.

MarkD51 Originally Posted by Doc Jake

my sound gram is way more regrettable then yours. I as of now wear Siemen Carat Bx7s with the SP collectors and before these I wore the Pure Carat 701s. Both came in hard shape from Siemens. Never had input issues. On the off chance that you were having input it was essentially in light of the fact that your molds didnt fit and sound was spilling and being grabbed by the mics. Taking a stab at anything in your range with arches of any sort was domed to disappointment. BTW, any producer will revamp molds at no cost until the point when they fit effectively.

Hi Doc,

I didn't know the seriousness of your listening ability misfortune was that awesome, or as awful, or more awful than mine. In this way, were in a comparative watercraft in a manner of speaking, and can envision the "streets" you have voyage were maybe as mind boggling, and once in a while disappointing.

I'm obviously not mindful of what were the reasons for your misfortune, for my situation, I'm not all that truly beyond any doubt any longer? 30 straight years in a Railroad Yard as a Mechanic, possibly. Getting a charge out of music at high DB levels, another imaginable cause. The pleasure in shooting, diseases, anti-infection agents, head injury, as I've been a couple of decent battles in my day, one time considered hand to hand fighting. Innate? Or, on the other hand a combo of all I say?

None the less, I'm the place I'm at, similar to you, and am trusting soon that some new HAs will give me somewhat preferred hearing over what I've encountered with these that I wear, and trusting hopefully that there will soon be a promising finish to the present course of action, and new pleasure. Obviously one needs to pay the cost of confirmation, yet when you really consider costs, would one be able to genuinely put a cost on hearing?

Perhaps one day Doc, some new medicines, or other mechanical science leaps forward will go along, and be a useful guide to all-a few of us? Can simply trust!

MarkD51 Originally Posted by sabrin514

I had a little issue with my molds as well and like another client in the discussion, I had the molds changed with the "open mouth" procedure. That appeared to settle the issues for her and myself.

I do by and by comprehend what you say is totally right, in that the jaw, and different places of the head, such as searching down for example, changes the state of the ear waterway. This obviously can cause another arrangement of factors, and issues from client to client.

As to my own particular Phonak Perseos which were again re-customized balanced yesterday evening, they were fine in the workplace after the last change, which fundamentally restored the HAs to a more seasoned session two or three years back.

Be that as it may, at that point in the wake of returning home, and planning supper, they started again a slight shriek from input, and as you can envision how frustrating this can be. Not certain of what the cause is, and is most likely still more than likely a slight sick fit. That maybe as dampness from sweat happens in the ear waterway, that they somewhat remove, and left the trench marginally. As you parents without a doubt know, it doesn't take particularly for such issues as input to raise their monstrous head.

Be that as it may, yet later, and at the present time, for the past couple hours, no input at all accomplished. Well, a genuine stumper with such traveling every which way. This specific left HA has been recased 2 times inside the previous 5 weeks, and I spoke with the repair office in California again yesterday evening, examining with the tech the constant re-happening issues, and they said they would happily again either re-present the Defense, or could maybe change and protract the tip of the situation where it lives profound inside the ear channel.

It creates the impression that they made the case a bit too short around there, that the shape does in any case not fit sufficiently profound into the ear trench. This maybe leaves excessively of an air crevice between the tip of the guide, and the eardrum?

I would send it out today, and maybe take a couple of close up large scale pics with my Digital Camera looking at the two Aids in different photographs. I may hold up simply one more day or three, to additionally perceive how this guide performs, and not to again surge decisions, and an assurance of what to do?

Once more, I do comprehend the trouble of making molds-cases, especially when the office is not nearby, and I'm not there face to face, nor ready to send off both HAs now. I'm at the precarious edge of potentially obtaining new HAs, so maybe fourteen days from now, in the wake of getting the new HAs, I would then be able to sent off both these more established HAs so they can look at, and would then be able to better match them in physical size-length?

Stamp

MarkD51 Originally Posted by Doc Jake

my sound gram is way more terrible then yours. I right now wear Siemen Carat Bx7s with the SP beneficiaries and before these I wore the Pure Carat 701s. Both came in hard forms from Siemens. Never had input issues. In the event that you were having criticism it was essentially on the grounds that your molds didnt fit and sound was spilling and being gotten by the mics. Taking a stab at anything in your range with arches of any sort was domed to disappointment. BTW, any producer will change molds at no cost until the point that they fit effectively.

Much thanks to you Doc for your reaction!

sabrin514 I had a little issue with my molds as well and like another client in the gathering, I had the molds revamped with the "open mouth" system. That appeared to settle the issues for her and myself.

Doc Jake my sound gram is way more terrible then yours. I as of now wear Siemen Carat Bx7s with the SP collectors and before these I wore the Pure Carat 701s. Both came in hard forms from Siemens. Never had input issues. On the off chance that you were having criticism it was essentially in light of the fact that your molds didnt fit and sound was spilling and being grabbed by the mics. Taking a stab at anything in your range with vaults of any sort was domed to disappointment. BTW, any producer will revamp molds at no cost until the point that they fit accurately.

MarkD51 I quite recently got an email from the online organization with respect to the Siemens Nitro Micon 7mi Custom ITC Aids.

She said she talked with Siemens today, and Siemens expressed cases that both their Easy Pocket Remote, and Tek Remote which is good with Bluetooth, and so on works with this specific guide.

I trust this is completely genuine right, should I at last pick choose to run with the Siemens Nitro 7mi ITC. (The Siemens Easy Pocket Remote she said was $175)

Other data she gave, that on the off chance that I pick rather to run with the Phonak Virto Q-90 312 ITC, that I would be requiring the UP Version (most elevated pick up yield) The straightforward Remote Phonak Makes (Pocket Pilot 1?, is $275 I accept)

In conclusion, she expressed she spoke with the nearby audi, whom I've worked with various circumstances before, they were the people who sold me my privilege Phonak Perseo Aid, and follow up help these most recent 10+ years, and said the audi and business would be cheerful to work with me through the online organization.

All basically great, and provoke news, however now has come the colossal individual trouble on a choice, to pick the Siemens Nitro Micon 7mi ITC, or the Phonak Virto Q90 312 UP ITC?

MarkD51 Originally Posted by sabrin514

I have an awful misfortune and utilize RIC. You require a custom shape to manage the input issues, so attempting them on in the workplace with vaults, you are not going to get a genuine portrayal of what the guide will resemble.

Hi Sabrin,

I know you are right, the Audeo V90 312 was fitted with a SP Reciever, and a specially fitted clear hard plastic Mold from Phonak.

My memory is somewhat fluffy since it's been a decent month or so back, yet trust the Custom Mold had a Vent Hole, and the Vent Hole was additionally then later stopped to check whether that redressed the criticism. The Feedback administration program was run various circumstances, and the volume at that point thumped down to nearly making the HAs absolutely unusable. Like I was wearing no guides by any means.

Everything considered, it could've been the determination of the SP Reciever, and that the UP Reciever for this model might've been the better decision? I figure I'll presumably never know now.

What's more, yes, while the audi asserted the Starkey 110Z had what she guaranteed was a superior criticism administration than the Phonak, it was more terrible, and once more, plausible reasons were no specially designed Mold, as the Phonak-Recievers are not compatible.

Concerning the Recievers, I know this may sound unusual odd, yet it would be decent if all Manufacturers started to utilize some type of institutionalized general Reciever and Connections. Hence, basic swaps, and that Reciever Technology could by one means or another be widespread. In that situation, the Phonak Reciever and Mold (which the recipient is then not removable from the Mold) could've been retrofitted to the Starkey HA. It's a thought, perhaps a faltering one?

Practically like changing tires on an auto, you purchase the particular size required, however then there's a heap of various makes, Firestone, Goodyear, Pirelli, Dunlop, and so on.

sabrin514 I have a terrible misfortune and utilize RIC. You require a custom shape to manage the input issues, so attempting them on in the workplace with vaults, you are not going to get a genuine portrayal of what the guide will resemble.

MarkD51 Originally Posted by KenP

Stamp, as to vanity, you are additionally managing old learning. The HA showcase has changed a great deal. You are pondering BTE helps that had the ear snare and the undeniable tube. They were massive behind the ear. Current RIC helps are little behind the ear. They are not as much as a large portion of the measure of an AAA battery. There isn't an ear snare yet a fine wire that is substantially harder to see. Solace is more noteworthy with the new guides.

One of the issues with purchasing over the net is you don't generally observe what else is out there. You are harming yourself by dodging a touch of go to comprehend what the new guides resemble. You don't need to purchase there yet you ought to illuminate yourself.

Hi Ken, and bless your heart.

I did as of late trial two TOTL RIC Aids, Phonak Audeo V-90 with SP Reciever and custom Mold, and a Starkey 110Z with an assortment of Universal Molds all around the same time visit. Yes, they were customized to my misfortune, criticism administration run, however both screeched like stuck pigs, there was no determination, and obviously an inescapable no can do was refered to by the audi, in this way I rescued.

I concur and I have yearned since the first run through observing these new RICs, I perceived what favorable circumstances they had over more seasoned innovation, and too custom fit HAs, for example, my ITCs. Particular, numerous incredible components, more up to date HA innovation, client alterable molds, wax monitors, and so on.

My decisions at show are this: Due to the seriousness of my misfortune, I think the biggest obstacle that I will proceed to confront, and need to battle overcome, will be input issues with any cutting edge or sort plan HA. I had expected that the further division of Reciever-Speaker and Mics would be an obvious preferred standpoint to a RIC, decreasing odds of input issues, however discovered I wasn't right.

Presumably the main way I could plainly make tracks in an opposite direction from the skirmish of criticism, is come back to a 1940's style HA, where one wears the little "transistor-like Radio in a shirt stash, and the Speaker and Hook hanging over the ear.

Assume that throughout the years, I have combatted-managed feeback issues on and off with my current HAs, and it resembles "Who needs to tune in to Jimmy Hendrix at Woodstock, with the nerve wracking Wee-ooo-Wee!", it resembled getting a free "Hendrix Concert"! LOL

KenP Mark, as to vanity, you are additionally managing old learning. The HA showcase has changed a considerable measure. You are contemplating BTE helps that had the ear snare and the undeniable tube. They were massive behind the ear. Current RIC helps are little behind the ear. They are not as much as a large portion of the measure of an AAA battery. There isn't an ear snare yet a fine wire that is substantially harder to see. Solace is more prominent with the new guides.

One of the issues with purchasing over the net is you don't generally observe what else is out there. You are harming yourself by staying away from a touch of go to comprehend what the new guides resemble. You don't need to purchase there yet you ought to advise yourself.

MarkD51 Originally Posted by Doc Jake

IMHO, $3800 for the match is more than a reasonable cost.

go here and tap the ite iconhttps://usa.bestsoundtechnology.com/...res/nitro-ite/

at that point go here and download the pdfhttps://usa.bestsoundtechnology.com/...e-brochure.pdf

that is all that you have to know to say the very least..

Much obliged to you Doc.

In the course of the last 2-3 days, I have scrutinized over the data on the Nitro Line, a similar you have given me. Took a bit to discover for momentarily, yet in the long run did.

At first, on the little pocket remote (overlook what it's called right now) it sounded that it was usable with the Nitro ITC/CIC models, however additionally perusing where it says "Read More", it at that point additionally explains that remote operation is just accessible with the BTE Model. A disgrace, yet perhaps as a result of pressing such a great amount of energy into these littler custom fit HAs, there was no room cleared out? Only a figure obviously.

I'm having the online vender investigate this further for me, as I don't wish to discount this guide right now. She will call me toward the beginning of today with more data. Up until now, all sounds well, data has been brief, cordial, they appear to be very knowledgable, and simple to work with.

The nitro custom ITC HA, might be just barely one of a little modest bunch of little careful guides that will be usable for my level of significant misfortune at high frequencies. I've obviously known for a considerable length of time that normally, the best prescribed and default decision for myself would be a Power BTE, maybe like the Phonak Naida. By and by, I wish for a HA that is littler, more prudent, subsequently the desire for a Power ITC.

Vanity, and the other, comfort are the primary purposes behind a decision of a littler ITC sort on the off chance that it is "feasible".

The other HA I have gotten some information about, is the Phonak Virto Q90 312 ITC. To the extent I can accumulate, this Model is accessible in 4 control forms, with both a SP, and UP setup. One of these setups might be by and by usable.

The value they cited me for the Q90 312 ITC Virto, regardless of the power yield and alternatives is $4500/pr. I could presumably take an informed figure that simply strolling into any seller's entryway and requesting a value, I could most likely include another $2K in addition to for the combine.

I recall, that my Phonak Perseo HAs, such a variety of years prior, were about $3200/ea. without any rebates.

Much obliged once more, Mark

Doc Jake IMHO, $3800 for the match is more than a reasonable cost.

go here and tap the ite iconhttps://usa.bestsoundtechnology.com/...res/nitro-ite/

at that point go here and download the pdfhttps://usa.bestsoundtechnology.com/...e-brochure.pdf

that is all that you have to know to say the very least..

MarkD51 The value I was cited for the Siemens Nitro Micon 7mi ITC was $3798.00/pr

I additionally asked about the Phonak Virto Q90, ITC 312 cost was $4500.00/pr

MarkD51 I'm not hesitant to additionally remark, I'm not reluctant to cite costs, or end client concurrences with an online organization, I'm not reluctant to post my truncated name, nor my area like it seems some are here, and maybe live in some suspicion.

I could've picked any of 10,000+ client names here instant, I could've been Travis Bickle, Pvt Pyle, Heisenberg, Jesse Pinkman, and so forth and so on.

Meet me at eye level, and I'll do likewise. Be that as it may, have a go at verbally smacking me around, and the twist up will be, I'll potentially get restricted, or others will for infringement of gathering rules. Or, on the other hand much data lost from posts-strings being erased, or shut. Is that what you're trusting Doc Jake?

Assuming this is the case, it will be a frosty day in hellfire before I let that happen.

MarkD51 Originally Posted by Doc Jake

where the hellfire are you finding the extremely poor data you think you have.

are there any neighborhood AuDs they could send you to that you havent irritated?

this string use to be astounding now it's quite recently entertaining

Hi Doc Jake,

Truly Doc Jake, I initially thought you were the individual above (Sabrin514) reacting to me.

You may perhaps be the most proficient, and experienced individual from this gathering, however it appears to be ordinarily, and particularly recently, all you regurgitate is cover proclamations, mockery, and affront towards me.

You dislike me, and may discover each open door now to do only troll each post, or request perception I make. I'm most likely not going to lose any rest over any hatreds between us if that is the situation here.

Presently, in the event that you wish to be useful, at that point kindly do expound promote about your past comments, that any data I have discovered erroneous defective?

Furthermore, no, I have essentially a very decent association with the 3 merchants I have worked with here in this town for different reasons. I have not "severed any ties" with any of them. In spite of the fact that Livingston got gotten in a lie a couple of years back, when they unassumingly disclosed to me that the broken battery compartment entryway on my Phonak Aid couldn't be repaired any sort of way.

MarkD51 Originally Posted by sabrin514

To straighten something up, why are you taking a gander at these guides specifically? I don't know they are the best amplifiers. They are not the best in the Siemen line either, which is the Binax 7. My companion has a hearing misfortune like yours and was prescribed to be fit with the Oticon Alta Pro. I don't have much data on them, however they appear to be better than average listening devices. I like the Widex Dream 440 by and by.

You should look at Hearing Revolutions (http://hearingrevolution.com/product.../portable amplifiers/) in case you're taking a gander at online suppliers. They have positively no charismatic skill strategies to direct you into some guide. You disclose to them what you wish to trial and they set you up for a hearing test and assessment (free) with a nearby audiologist that has practical experience in that producer. It's $75 per help to restore the portable hearing assistants inside the trial (45 days) for a generally full discount. You pay just for the portable amplifiers and that's it. All the administration from the nearby audiologist is incorporated (for a year) with the cost in addition to 2 years worth of free batteries!

Sorry in the event that I seem like I work for them (I don't). I am quite recently so cheerful that they gave me incredible client benefit and didn't exploit me by any stretch of the imagination. I was exceptionally anxious about requesting on the web and I didn't know how the procedure functioned. I couldn't hear on the telephone amid the whole procedure, so I needed to have a relative making inquiries for me. Hearing upsets was constantly exceptionally responsive and extremely supportive in address all inquiries and concerns. They additionally corresponded specifically with me by email and I can't say enough in regards to how extraordinary their client benefit was. They even expanded my trial by 3 weeks after I chose to get a custom shape part of the way through a trial.

Much obliged to you for your reponse, and this heads up. This business that you have educated me of really sounds great, and in a few regards superior to anything the business I have as of late reached. I can state more in a subsequent answer, yet will keep this short.

Much appreciated again for your assistance and proposals! Check

Doc Jake where the damnation are you finding the extremely poor data you think you have.

are there any nearby AuDs they could send you to that you havent irritated?

this string use to be stunning now it's recently entertaining

sabrin514 Out of interest, why are you taking a gander at these guides specifically? I don't know they are the best portable amplifiers. They are not the best in the Siemen line either, which is the Binax 7. My companion has a hearing misfortune like yours and was prescribed to be fit with the Oticon Alta Pro. I don't have much data on them, yet they appear to be better than average amplifiers. I like the Widex Dream 440 by and by.

You should look at Hearing Revolutions (http://hearingrevolution.com/product.../portable amplifiers/) in case you're taking a gander at online suppliers. They have positively no persuasiveness strategies to guide you into some guide. You disclose to them what you wish to trial and they set you up for a hearing test and assessment (free) with a nearby audiologist that represents considerable authority in that producer. It's $75 per help to restore the portable amplifiers inside the trial (45 days) for a generally full discount. You pay just for the listening devices and that's it. All the administration from the neighborhood audiologist is incorporated (for a year) with the cost in addition to 2 years worth of free batteries!

Sorry on the off chance that I seem like I work for them (I don't). I am recently so glad that they gave me incredible client benefit and didn't exploit me by any means. I was exceptionally anxious about requesting on the web and I didn't know how the procedure functioned. I couldn't hear on the telephone amid the whole procedure, so I needed to have a relative making inquiries for me. Hearing unrests was constantly exceptionally responsive and extremely supportive in address all inquiries and concerns. They additionally corresponded specifically with me by email and I can't say enough in regards to how awesome their client benefit was. They even expanded my trial by 3 weeks after I chose to get a custom shape part of the way through a trial.

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